This is pretty much what I expected when violence from Syria moved across the border to Turkey. I mentioned that Turkey was a NATO member. And now the Prime Minister of Turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is hinting at NATO member obligations:
“We have many options. A country has rights born out of international law against border violations,” Erdogan was quoted as saying by Hurriyet daily and other newspapers.
“Also, NATO has responsibilities to do with Turkey’s borders, according to Article 5,” added Erdogan, whose country is a NATO member.
Uh-oh. Article 5 is, as Think Progress explains, the linchpin for the alliance. It says explicitly that “an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence.” In other words, more cross-border attacks by Syria against targets inside Turkey would necessarily force the US, France, Britain and the rest of the NATO alliance to come to Turkey’s aid militarily.
In order to pre-empt this at a time when refugees still sit on the border between Syria and Turkey, the State Department wants to create a buffer zone between the two countries. That would create something to police and also a red line that would have to be crossed for any expansion of activities. But this is what it means to be pulled into a conflict. For some of the more warlike factions in Washington, you don’t have to do all that much pulling.
I’d like to say that the cease-fire which began today in Syria supersedes all this, and now peace and calm and reconciliation will predominate. But I don’t want you all to laugh at me. The situation remains precarious, and Turkey will apparently not hesitate to invoke their rights as a NATO member should things turn more deadly.




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Some counter views…
The AP reported on that cross-border shooting:
The soldiers were believed to be firing at rebels who tried to escape to the refugee camp after ambushing a Syrian military checkpoint, killing six soldiers, according to the Britain-based activist group Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
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I new that Article 5 would come back tpo bite us in the ass, some day.
Everybody knows I deplore war, always. This treaty predates the current crop of warmongers though so we can’t really blame them. The choice will come down to simply, do we honor our obligations under the NATO charter or do we not? I can make an argument for either approach so I think I’ll thank my lucky stars that I’m not making that decision.
EDIT: I will add this clarification: When I said I could make an argument for either honoring our obligations or not, that shouldn’t be interpreted to mean that I would ever support arming people or doing the shooting ourselves, quite the contrary. I was merely pointing out that US treaty obligations shouldn’t be blithely tossed aside.
I have a bad feeling that, one way or another, we are going to get sucked into Syria. I think Iran would like a proxy war. Maybe even Russia, too. We don’t have all that many friends, it seems.
Hmph! Russia’s arms manufacturers are certainly eying a proxy war. Never doubt that. Their PTB hate brown people too and I think they’re still smarting about getting kicked out of Afghanistan, just like is happening to us now.
Russia does have a vested interest in Syria, with it’s naval base in Tartus, Peg…! Why didn’t Erdogan invoke Art. V when Israel boarded and killed 9 Turkish citizens on the Turk-flagged Mavi Marmarra in international waters…!
How would I know??? I’m not Erdogan. Nor am I remotely defending him!
Nor, am I defending Assad…! Bahrain is experiencing a real rebellion, but, since Manama is HQ for the Fifth Fleet, the GCC/EU/US is actively quelling it with Western Arms…! Our hypocrisy is staggering…! 8-(
This invoking Article 5 thing is a complete red herring, as Turkey is more than capable of dealing with any military challenge from Syria. For that reason alone Syria is unlikely to press the issue, but if it did and Turkey did invoke Article 5 then the extent of NATO’s involvement would still be a matter to be determined.
NATO is a military alliance. It would be pointless without a commitment to collective self-defense.