
Archbishop J. Peter Sartain, ordered to put nuns in their place
A lot of Americans, Catholic or otherwise, were offended, even outraged when the Vatican presumed to lecture America’s nuns about being too devoted to helping the poor and insufficiently obedient in spreading blatantly discriminatory Vatican doctrines against gays, contraception, and the whole question of women’s place in the church.
Catholics were especially shocked at the overtly male attack on the respected nuns and appalled when the Vatican assigned an out-of-touch American Archbishop to start an inquisition attempting to force doctrinal uniformity and silence the organization representing 80 percent of American nuns.
As Lisa’s Dad says in the Eddie Murphy comedy, “this is America, Jack,” and folks here are not fond of foreign rulers, let alone religious potentates, telling us what to believe. It just struck a lot of folks as being not just out of touch but unAmerican.
It’s more than a little hypocritical at a time when the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and a prominent American Cardinal have been whining that rules requiring insurance companies to offer coverage for contraception violate their consciences and principles of religious freedom. But here’s the Vatican’s exclusively male hierarchy, led by the group assigned to impose doctrinal uniformity, ordered by the Vatican to start an Inquisition to tell America’s respected symbols of the Catholic faith that they have no right to even discuss, let alone question, the male hierarchy’s discriminatory dogma.
This weekend, two prominent New York columnists used their Sunday columns to send a united message to New York’s Cardinal Timonthy Dolan and the Catholic hierarchy: lay off the nuns unless you want to read a lot of stories about pedophile priests and the massive coverup scandal involving the Bishops and Vatican.
In a column entitled, We Are All Nuns, Nicholas Kristof starts with “nuns rock” but then tells the Vatican to back off:
They were the first feminists, earning Ph.D.’s or working as surgeons long before it was fashionable for women to hold jobs. As managers of hospitals, schools and complex bureaucracies, they were the first female C.E.O.’s.
They are also among the bravest, toughest and most admirable people in the world. In my travels, I’ve seen heroic nuns defy warlords, pimps and bandits. Even as bishops have disgraced the church by covering up the rape of children, nuns have redeemed it with their humble work on behalf of the neediest.
So, Pope Benedict, all I can say is: You are crazy to mess with nuns. . . .
In effect, the Vatican accused the nuns of worrying too much about the poor and not enough about abortion and gay marriage.
What Bible did that come from? Jesus in the Gospels repeatedly talks about poverty and social justice, yet never explicitly mentions either abortion or homosexuality. If you look at who has more closely emulated Jesus’s life, Pope Benedict or your average nun, it’s the nun hands down.
And then he fires this shot across the altar:
At least four petition drives are under way to support the nuns. One on Change.org has gathered 15,000 signatures. The headline for this column comes from an essay by Mary E. Hunt, a Catholic theologian who is developing a proposal for Catholics to redirect some contributions from local parishes to nuns.
“How dare they go after 57,000 dedicated women whose median age is well over 70 and who work tirelessly for a more just world?” Hunt wrote. “How dare the very men who preside over a church in utter disgrace due to sexual misconduct and cover-ups by bishops try to distract from their own problems by creating new ones for women religious?”
We get the same message from Maureen Dowd:
Who thinks it’s cool to bully nuns? While continuing to heal and educate, the community of sisters is aging and dying out because few younger women are willing to make such sacrifices for a church determined to bring women to heel.
Yet the nuns must be yanked into line by the crepuscular, medieval men who run the Catholic Church.
“It’s not terribly unlike the days of yore when they singled out people in the rough days of the Inquisition,” said Kenneth Briggs, the author of “Double Crossed: Uncovering the Catholic Church’s Betrayal of American Nuns.”
How can the church hierarchy be more offended by the nuns’ impassioned advocacy for the poor than by priests’ sordid pedophilia?
Looks like American’s Catholic/media elites are signalling they’ve had enough bullying from the boys. Dowd’s final shot:
Church leaders behave like adolescent boys, blinded by sex. That’s the problem with inquisitors and censors: They become fascinated by what they deplore.
The pope needs what the rest of us got from nuns: a good rap across the knuckles.
Ouch! Your move, Cardinal Dolan.




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Popes? Priests? The ‘Church’? Bishops? Nuns?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…….
So how about an office pool? Will the Catholic PTB mind the NYT or not?
Typo alert — the word is “ALTAR” not “ALTER”
Tweeted, recommended. Thanks Crow.
The nuns, like all good soldiers, cannot actually, publicly, say that their leadership is shitty. But, in my experience, they will continue to act according to their vows (which are *not* to the pope) until their dying days. They may save us yet.
I talked to an old high school teacher a a decade or so ago, a nun. Her eyes filled with tears, “You don’t know how hard we fought for you.” Yes, Sister Jonathan, I do. We had a pedophile, alcoholic principal and yes, yes, I can figure out how hard you fought and what you had to do.
And to follow up, our high school was dismantled b/c the teachers wanted to unionize — hah! Eh wot?
As I see it, they did so well on limiting health care reform and pushing anti-contraception laws that they felt they really had something going on here and decided to push it as far as the country would let them. Now, they see their limits. They still got pretty far with the help of Republicans and some Democrats.
Agree with what you said.
Whatever was going on recently… the RC male heirachy/corporation was hand in glove with the PTB in this country. The combo of 1%er & RC Bishops doubling down on all citizens’ (not just the women, btw) reproductive freedom and choices was rather stunning to behold.
Agree that the RC corporation decided to push it as far as the could. Why not? Here’s some real push-back at last. That, at least, is how I see the NYT article. Why this and not the rest is the mystery, frankly.
Don ‘t expect any enlightenment coming from Cardinal Dolan’s office.
The guy is as much of a right wing hack as a GOP congressional freshman.
He’s just a used car salesman who likes to play dress up.
IMO the Catholic Church has no right to tell anyone what to do or how to live their lives. When they get their own house in order, people might have some respect but not until that – and maybe never. I think the child abuse is still going on and always will. I wouldn’t let my child get anywhere near a priest.
You talkin’ about motes?
Helping the poor is about the the only thing the church does right. Wasting Catholic donations on anti Women, Gay ads and lobbying is not cool.
Sorry, don’t know what that is and it says the page does not exist. Can you tell me more?
57,000 for how many millions of Catholics and the Church claims they don’t have a problem with women? Woman are voting with their feet it seems. Average age 70 and how many of them are imports from other countries I know the church has been bringing in priests from other countries maybe they are bringing in Nuns too?
Sure Woman live longer than men but the numbers suggest that we might not have any American Nuns unless they import some from other countries in 20 years heck in 10 years I would be surprised if they have half that number.
I never seem to notice the Church treating GOP pro Death Penalty Politicians like they do abortion Rights Dems maybe the Church WANTS to lose their tax exempt status.
If the Pope cares so much about abortion and kids he can turn over Cardinal Law for questioning about hiding pedophile priests.
It’s from the Gospel according to Matthew, chapter 7 verse 5:
You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother’s eye.
{I’m a lapsed Methodist – haven’t ever heard quoted by any Evangelical politicians or Catholics.}
I was a Methodist and then a Lutheran. Decided I was well off without either. Thanks for the quote – one of the best in the Bible – IMO – and one we could all use.
I’m confused. Which of these religious nutballs are less evil, again?
Shame that won’t fit on a bumper sticker. Well, maybe on a Lincoln Navigator.
Lets’ go to the tape…..
Do you mean to be sooo out of touch?
What a great piece; let’s hear it for the nuns. Yes, dedicated educators, nurses, and generally solace for the poor. All the best to
the push-back…
RevBev.. do I mean to be ‘out of touch’… you mean generally in life or specifically about a dying fantasy religion, staffed by thieves, conmen, deluded celibates, geriatrics and pederasts, working hand in glove with the rich and powerful throughout history to degrade, demean, defile and destroy all threats to their power even as they hand out a scrap of bread and call it ‘christian charity’?
Oh.. THAT ‘out of touch’.
No.
…”unless you want to read a lot of stories…pedophile…massive cover-up”…
What is this saying? Just that the media is judge and jury on what we should receive as knowledge? That may be true of any information, but something smells about that statement, about their willful withholding and threats of release. Shouldn’t we have already gotten ALL their stories about pedophile and cover-up and Catholic hierarchy bullshit?
Dolan chimed in on this on Saturday, in an interview with WPIX. From his remarks on the sisters about halfway through come these stunning words:
Either Dolan needs to get out more and chat with a wider cross-section of sisters, or he’s being duplicitous.
Or both.
“Reasoned dialogue” is not how anyone but a Prince of the Church would read the CDF’s doctrinal assessment. It’s certainly not how the women of the church are reading it.