Here’s a nice postscript to Christine Lagarde’s attack on the Greek people for their problems. You remember that Lagarde said she didn’t sympathize with Greeks as much as she did, say, African children, because Greeks got themselves into their own mess by not paying their taxes. This has a kernel of truth, as the Greek tax collection system is basically hopeless. That’s true more for the rich in Greece than the poor, who are bearing the brunt of the suffering during the depression, however. And it appeared to be an unnecessarily cruel thing to say, as evidenced by Lagarde walking back the comments on Facebook after making them.
Now here comes the punchline. Christine Lagarde, as head of the IMF, doesn’t pay any taxes:
As an official of an international institution, her salary of $467,940 (£298,675) a year plus $83,760 additional allowance a year is not subject to any taxes [...]
Lagarde, 56, receives a pay and benefits package worth more than American president Barack Obama earns from the United States government, and he pays taxes on it.
The same applies to nearly all United Nations employees – article 34 of the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations of 1961, which has been signed by 187 states, declares: “A diplomatic agent shall be exempt from all dues and taxes, personal or real, national, regional or municipal.”
According to Lagarde’s contract she is also entitled to a pay rise on 1 July every year during her five-year contract.
I suppose we can have a discussion about why international organization employees shouldn’t pay taxes, including for those at what amounts to the executive level (the claim is that these organizations must offer big salaries to attract talent from the private sector, but practically all of the appointees end up coming from the political realm). But the bigger issue is that Lagarde surely knew at the time of making comments about evil tax evaders that she paid no tax on her salary. This reeks of the attitude of one system for the little people, and one for the elites, which characterizes elite discourse in this day and age. That’s especially true because Lagarde’s initial point was that one group, the poor, should suffer because another group, the rich, didn’t pay their taxes.





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I am shocked, shocked that the pols rig things in their favor. Congress routinely exempts itself from all sorts of regulations.
There is only one war, and it is a class war.
Any idea if she gives anything to charity?
And those people appointed are already stinking rich, effete elites when they land these sinecures.
Why did little Timmy have to pay his back taxes when he became the Treasury Secretary? I thought the back taxes were related to his work at the IMF.
It was his back SS and Medicare taxes (which he’ll probably never be collecting against ~ just my WAG) that went unpaid. Lagarde (LaFarge?) wouldn’t be paying those as she’s not a US citizen/taxpayer.
Abdul. I’m not shocked at all. Pissed of, sure. But not shocked.
Actually, I heard she gave up a job in the finance sector that paid twice as much as this one.
Why would a German agree to increase working from age 65 to 67 to pay for Greeks retiring at 50?
I sometimes consult for UN organizations (Unicef, UNDP, FAO, UNESCO etc.). NOT at Ms LaGarde’s level. Basically, they pay (me) next to nothing, giving me the same rate as their full-time employees with a few years’ experience — even though I’m a contractor. I need to buy a laptop, pay for my health insurance ($8,000/year), pay for office space and so on, AND pay taxes to the US for everything that they pay me.
It’s not worthwhile complaining about the money: I could work for someone else if I felt lousy enough. And I can deduct those expenses. It’s their uniformly unrealistic attitude, their lack of comprehension of the special treatment that they receive and the struggles that everyone who is NOT working for int’l agencies goes through.
Actually,
A noted antitrust and labour lawyer, Lagarde made history by becoming the first female chair of the international law firm Baker & McKenzie. Previously, she held various ministerial posts in the French government: she was Minister of Economic Affairs, Finances and Industry and before that Minister of Agriculture and Fishing and Minister of Trade in the government of Dominique de Villepin.
The guy she replaced, DSK, was removed through a manufactured scandal after he made the mistake of openly advocating changing the predominant world currency from the US dollar. We’ve invaded, occupied, and engaged in “kinetic military actions” to prevent countries from doing that, just within this century.
She was Minister of Finance under Sarkozy, and took DSK’s place after he was fired.
Didn’t the World Bank, IMF, etc. originate as organized crime loan sharks, just like the “insurance companies” which started as protection rackets?
That’s not where the money’s going. You might rephrase the question, why should German’s pay for Greek health care and education? That’s where the money goes, not to the retirees. Now the Germans probably don’t care if there are a lot of sick and uneducated Greeks a thousand kilometers to the South, but they ought to be made to face up to it, rather than wave a meaningless scarecrow in their face.
The IMF and the World Bank are the worst. These guys pay no taxes, and stay at the top hotels, where they get the best prostitutes. It wasn’t just DSK. I knew a number of them who loved the work.
Actual average retirement age in Greece: 61.9
Actual average retirement age in Germany: 61.8
Source: OECD as reported by Der Spiegel.
Be a good troll now and move along to the next thread.
A little historical perspective:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Satan/1920-1935.htm#1935
(Apologies for the anti-Semitism on the site. Does not detract form the info. though. Sadly too many fling around such words because they can’t see the details through the red haze of disgust and hatred for the sociopaths, in some eyes. It doesn’t matter that some of these folks are Jewish. The Jews in Israel are under the same controls as any of us, and they are being crushed like the rest of us by the exact same people, some of whom happen to be Jewish. And I would argue that some of those implementing global control are as Jewish as much as the Pope is Catholic. All sorts of people do bad things. Hindus, Buddhists, … It doesn’t matter what they’re religion. Many of these same parasites corrupt and milk their own people and religions. They’re all just sociopaths who only use religion to make money, just like the Pope. Sociopaths is what they are. That’s accurate.)
“The BIS is referred to by the bankers as the, “Central bank for the central banks.” To put this bank into perspective today, whereas the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank deal with governments, the BIS deals only with other central banks. All its meetings are held in secret and involve the top central bankers from around the world. For example the former head of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, would go to the BIS headquarters in Basel, Switzerland, ten times a year for these private meetings.”
“The BIS also has the status of a sovereign power and is immune from governmental control. A summary of this immunity is listed below:
1. Diplomatic immunity for persons and what they carry with them (i.e., diplomatic pouches).
2. No taxation on any transactions, including salaries paid to employees.
3. Embassy-type immunity for all buildings and/or offices operated by the BIS worldwide including China and Mexico.
4. No oversight or knowledge of operations by any government authority, they are not audited.
5. Freedom from immigration restrictions.
6. Freedom to encrypt any and all communications of any sort.
7. Freedom from any legal jurisdiction, they even have their own police force.”
“Georgetown Professor and historian, Carroll Quigley, commented on the creation of this central bank in his 1975 book, “Tragedy and Hope,” as follows,
“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far reaching (plan), nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.
The apex of the system was to be the Bank For International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations.
Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the Country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
A handful of United States Senators led by Henry Cabot Lodge, would fight to keep the United States out of the Bank for International Settlements. However, even though the United States rejected this World Central Bank, the Federal Reserve still sent members to participate in its meetings in Switzerland, right up until 1994 when the United States was, “officially,” dragged into it.”
He does seem to be a reliable source of misinformation.
As always, thanks for your excellent contributions.
Sounds like you call her “Chrissie”.
That’s friggin’ hilarious.
Thanks for the info. Awesome info.
So I guess now we have the unholy trinity: BIS, Bilderberg, and the Tri-Lateral Commission.
I thought that was “all trumped up.”
That guy coulda easily afforded a high priced call girl and charged it all to his IMF expense account.
Maid just wasn’t that hot.
:-)
Henry Cabot Lodge shoulda been president.
Wiki:
Germany
Early ret. age = 65
Normal = 67
% working at age 55-59 = 64%
% working age 60-64 = 23%
Greece
Early ret. age = 55
Normal = 65
% working age 55-59 = 31%
% working age 60-64 = 18%
I guess calling someone a Troll then makes you the FDL Bully Goat Gruff.
According to the data, Greeks retire later than Germans. You were indicating otherwise.
You should actually link to where wiki got its source information. Otherwise I think I’d believe OECD(which is where the link somethingblue cites.) Wiki does not always have current information.
Gotta jump in here, if only to defend the Constitution.
See, there’s this document, and it defines our three branches of government, and it says that each branch, except in extreme cases (treason, bribery) can’t tell the other branches what to do. And since laws are enforced by the Executive (from the verb infinitive t. ‘to execute (a law)’), the Legislative branch (which legislates, ie., writes the laws) is inherently exempt from enforcement by the Executive branch.
If the Legislative Branch, in toto or severally (House and/or Senate) choose to enforce these laws on themselves, by themselves, that’s another thing.
Each house of Congress makes its own rules (which is why there’s a filibuster in the Senate, but not in the House, for example,) and individuals are not exempt from laws that reflect on the individual (murder, bribery) other than in the commission of their office (parking tickets.)
Sorry, got a lot of this over the dinner table from Dad, the PoliSci prof. Guess it stuck.
So they’d still have a peripheral EU state to export to, without tariffs or conversion issues. Aren’t you reading Krugman? Catch up…The German solution can’t work everywhere else, because every nation can’t run an export surplus at once. Export surplus is what Germany’s been running, to all the other countries in the EU. If they collapse, so does the German trade surplus.
In for a drachma, in for a deutchmark, I guess.
That doesn’t mean it’s not true. Glad to give you a reason to laugh, for a change.
It is what we have come to expect from a ruling elite. A stern moral lecture promptly followed by a astounding [yet unsurprising] revelation of hypocrisy. She could voluntarily pay taxes after all she does receive benefits from the government. of the place she lives. An honorable person would.
Folks have to realize that our educational system eviscerates the idea of shared sacrifice and community effort (except in sports – our modern substitute for tribal warfare).
In school as we know it advancement is competitive and people are in it for themselves.
Take the “winners” of this system and you have our ruling class save for a tiny sliver.
Contemptible to a shocking degree. Largarde is the poster child for contemptible hypocritical elite.
Free yourself Greece while you’ve got the chance.