I have lots of interesting news and information to report from the Netroots Nation conference in Providence, RI this past weekend. So expect a series of posts over the next couple days.
But first, I wanted to address a couple stories coming out of Providence involving me and New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s staff. I think they serve to paint a pretty sorry picture of our politics, with meaninglessness taking precedence over the core issues. But they also illuminate those issues in a way. So let me lay this all out to the best of my recollection.
My Netroots panel on foreclosure fraud was confirmed long before Schneiderman was announced as the Thursday keynote speaker for the conference. For backstory’s sake, let me say that I have in the past asked Schneiderman’s office, in particular two communications staffers who no longer work there, for interviews with the NYAG, and I’ve never had the request honored. Meanwhile, on a couple occasions journalists have called me asking them for help constructing questions for their Schneiderman interviews. So there was no point in asking Schneiderman to come on the panel; his staff, for whatever reason, doesn’t want him to talk to me. I actually did a tweet making the ask for panel participation the day the keynote session was announced, but that’s as far as it went.
Flash forward to Providence, Thursday. I hear about a pressure action that will be performed against Schneiderman at the keynote. I wrote a preview about it. And the pressure action did happen, with people waving “Jail the Bankers” signs as Schneiderman came out for the speech and throughout it, yelling on occasion for him to be tougher in his investigations, and at one point interrupting the NYAG. (I thought Schneiderman handled it well.) Neal Kwatra, the chief of staff for Schneiderman, has characterized that as a “support action” put together by the Progressive Change Campaign Committee. All I’ll say to that is that, usually, a support action would have the supporters BEHIND the speechmaker, not in front of him, interrupting him and waving signs with messages at cross purposes with everything we know about the investigation at this point. But draw your own conclusions.
After the keynote, Kwatra, who was pacing the general session hall throughout the speech, walked by me and two other people, former SIGTARP and panel participant Neil Barofsky, and Rick Jacobs of the California Courage Campaign. Kwatra knows Rick, and he said hello. Rick, a inveterate party host, then introduced Kwatra to Neil and myself. We exchanged pleasantries.
Rick asked Kwatra, “How long is Schneiderman in town?” Kwatra said he would be there until midday Friday. At that point, I mentioned that I have this panel on foreclosure fraud in the morning, and it would be great if Schneiderman could participate, as we could make room. I fully expected the answer “no,” but I thought I’d take a shot. Kwatra just laughed. The conversation wrapped up and that was that.
The next morning, I opened the panel with a joke. I introduced the panelists, and then said that we may have one more guest, because I talked to Eric Schneiderman’s chief of staff yesterday and invited the AG to come on. So far he hadn’t made it, but I said we would leave a chair out for Elijah just in case. And there was much hilarity.
Zach Carter of the Huffington Post, who I’ve known for several years, was in the room. After the panel, he came up to me and asked if that was true about Schneiderman and the panel. I told him what I just told you, dear readers, in this post.
A few hours later, I get an email from Carter saying that Kwatra denied everything. ”100% untrue,” Kwatra said. I wrote back to Zach that I had two witnesses, included their email addresses, and told him that he could ask them directly. Both Jacobs and Barofsky corroborated the story.
The result is Zach’s story here. I should say that Zach writes his own stories, and I didn’t pitch it to him or anything. But I agree it’s newsworthy that a major chief of staff would apparently lie about something so small, so petty, and so meaningless. I say apparently lie, because it’s possible that something was misheard. But it should never have gotten to that point. I could think of a thousand ways to demur about the invitation without flatly denying it, especially after three sources corroborated it. ”The NYAG had other things on his schedule,” you could say, for example. ”It was a last-minute, informal invitation.” “The NYAG appreciates the pressure from the grassroots on this important issue.” (that’s lifted almost verbatim from his speech.) Why would you turn something this unimportant into an incident? It smacks of just bad service of the Attorney General, in my opinion.
I got some feedback on the story, which I linked to on Twitter but haven’t written about until now. One of the more interesting responses came from Adam Bonin, a Daily Kos writer and a board member at Netroots Nation. He told me that, during my panel, as he was outside in the hallway, someone associated with Schneiderman – he did not know who – came up to him and told him that they were hoping to get Eric over to the panel. Now perhaps that was another in a series of misunderstandings, perhaps it was someone not associated with Schneiderman at all having a bit of fun. But it’s indicative of all of the charges and counter-charges flying around this incident, as well as manic behind-the-scenes phone calls and emails, flowing mostly from the AG’s office.
It’s time to lower the temperature. I don’t care that Eric Schneiderman didn’t come on my panel. I don’t think he would have liked it. And I wish that everyone could pay more attention to the other 74:52 of the panel, the substance of it, rather than an 8-second joke (to be fair, most people at the conference did, including Carter, who wrote two other stories about the panel, for which I am grateful). Because every second focused on meaningless bullshit like this is a second we’re not focusing on the millions upon millions of homeowners, investors and ordinary Americans who have had their lives destroyed at the hands of systemic fraud across the mortgage and foreclosure process by the country’s largest banks.
And yet, there is a revealing aspect to all this. If Neal Kwatra was half as concerned about Jamie Dimon and Ken Lewis as he is about me, maybe his boss would have put them and their colleagues in prison by now. I have no idea how Schneiderman is receiving all this, or whether he’s receiving it at all. But I do believe that this level of service by staff is contributing to the ruination of this man’s public reputation.
If, in the coming months, we see real activity coming out of the investigation – setting aside the toothless settlement, which was a main subject of the discussion on the panel – then nobody will care about who said what in the back of a hall in the Providence Convention Center. But until that time, we can only go off the public record. And this sliver of it suggests that the greatest threat to the New York Attorney General, from the perspective of his chief of staff, is not the possibility of bank executives getting away with fraud, but some blogger who might point it out. To put it directly to Mr. Schneiderman, who I have not had the pleasure of speaking with: you might want to deal with the problem in your office.





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I look forward to your reports on the substance of your panel.
Bob in AZ
It’s been an amazing turnaround, from crusading liberal champion to sellout. Even if he doesn’t care about justice and morality, you’d think he’d want to change course before he becomes a joke. Kissing up to power isn’t always the right the political move. Usually but not always. I voted for him. I won’t again unless something changes.
With Schneiderman, there is no there there.
Keep up your great work, David.
1. My underlying assumption is that like principal, life staff.
2. I don’t recall Schneiderman ever being a crusading liberal champion. What I recall is that a lot of commenters here thought that he was one.
Oh David. I <3 you.
BTW – does this Kwatra kerfuffle remind anyone else of an episode of Veep?
Fucking amateurs.
All office holding, formerly liberal Democrats have received orders to sell out (and they are complying).
If the staff can stir up controversy about you, DDay, no one will pay attention to the corroboration of others; that point will be forgotten along with the non-prosecution of the fraudulent bank crooks. You are designated to be a troublesome firepup, you know a whiner of the professional left.
Well, he did oppose the foreclosure settlement whitewash…for a while.
Just waitin’ until his bid was hit.
David, as usual, you’re doin’ good work. but I disagree about the “misheard” misunderstanding. At this point, it’s very relevant…far from meaningless.
And: eCAHN: “Just waitin’ until his bid was hit.”
:o) :o) :o)
That was a great panel discussion, David. I am sure Mr. Schneiderman’s Chief of Staff would far rather we be concerned about a trivial nonissue than focused on the elements of that discussion, which reflect so badly on his boss, whether he made an appearance or not. (The photo speaks volumes.) The points you make here simply buttress the discussion, in which indeed the emphasis was on the facts of the mortgage debacle and the cleanup debacle, a discussion crying out to be had.
Your sidebar issue is not unlike what happened to TarheelDem, (though his harrowing ordeal is up there with torture) – the same deflection of the message in a desperate attempt to blur it.
Thank you for stating truth to power as you amazingly do so well. You are a treasure on this site, so please be safe. These guys play dirty.
David, when is the video going up?
A couple of us cynics said that all along.
On the substance of the issue, it is true that’s the last thing Schneiderman wants to address. But his staff’s inept response to the sidebar tells one a lot about how incompetent the ruling class has become. Or how arrogant. (Is there a diff?) They don’t even bother to think of a way to hide their contempt.
As always, great job David.
As always, excellent comments my dear colleagues.
We’re gettin’ hosed so often, I wake up with the smell of polyvinyl-chloride in the air.
The natives are getting restless.
I liked the Elijah joke, and so did lots of other people in the room.
People are committing suicide over their foreclosure problems, and perhaps people in Afghanistan are being killed over our foreclosure mess, see wendydavis’ post.
I confront my state AG every time I see him about this, and he is dismissive and arrogant.
We need massive national action on this and a few other things. Change will only come when we are in the nation’s face about it.
Thank you for reporting on all this, keep it up!
With Schneiderman, we are seeing what happens when an aggressive progressive AG comes up against the true secret power structure in this country. I have been on Schneiderman’s side since August when he stood up to Obama and the 50 state AGs, but after the SOTU speech, we all saw his good intentions turned into rhetoric for Obama and then wither on the vine (so far).
Obama himself is powerless against the banks – we saw them hold him and Bush for hostage, threatening to ruin the savings of Grandma and Grandpa unless they get all the money they need. In truth, the time to arrest bankers was right after Obama’s inauguration, but he went the exact other direction, hiring Wall Street flacks throughout the cabinet to run our government.
I know “something” is coming in the fall, but I do not have faith it will be perp walks. I think the banks will throw a few guys under the bus in backroom deals, pay some fines and promise a new day. By now, they have not only covered their tracks, they have also bought off law enforcement, killing regulation and are right back on the same course. Worst of all, they are dangling twin carrots before Obama and Romney who need cash on the barrellhead right now.
Schneiderman is in a tough spot. And the part that gets me is how hypocritical the taxpayers are – if we really wanted the AG to make waves, we would have abandoned the banks, but we haven’t. A few OWS protests didn’t even puncture the media firewall. Schneiderman needs massive support alongside him, not pushing him towards the cliff. His life is already miserable, dealing with the realization that his party is full of complicit crooks.
The protesters, if they are truly a force to be reckoned with need to take it to the banks, the CEOs, to Obama, to Congress and to the DOJ and SEC.
Occupy got some attention back when, making this a major issue, but where’s the follow up, what’s the latest? It’s Spring, it’s warm, it’s almost Summer. The schools are getting out. Instead of growing like Quebec, we’re seeing articles questioning Occupy’s existence.
Those getting on the AGs case sound like whiners waiting for a superhero (Schneider-man?) to fix everything, instead of paving the way with effective in-your-face grassroots activism.
Yes, I basically lived Veep this weekend.
trying to figure that out
I read elsewhere that there was no streaming in the room holding the foreclosure panel discussion, but does raven333′s question mean it was video taped?
If so, good.
I believe the correct term is:
firebagger
It’s SO veep.
Issa is taking a contempt vote on Holder.
Holder will be gone soon, collecting millions in advisory fees when he again passes thru the revolving door to return to Covington.
Obama will promote Schneiderman from NYAG to USAG.
And there will be peace in the world.
I’m assuming this is the Wendy Davis post you’re referring to: Military Madness: Suicides Spike, “Rogue” Sergeant Bales and Foreclosure Killings?
In it, Wendy links to this (longish) piece about foreclosures adding to pressures and stress some military personnel have been under, Death by Foreclosure Killings and Staff Sgt. Roger Bales.
Wendy has some of the parts pertaining to Bales in her post.
DDay… as usual, great piece.
WRT to Schneiderman not knowing Kwatra’s ways, I don’t buy it. You don’t get to be Chief of Staff without Schneiderman either:
1) knowing Kwatra’s M.O.
or
2) asking a trusted friend for a recommendation on Kwatra’s work ethic.
Schneiderman knew Kwatra would laugh in such a situation… though he is pretty weak for not giving you a different response, such as you suggested.
Schneiderman doesn’t care though. He’s holding his breath for the contempt vote and Holder’s “resignation.”
Speaking of getting laughter as the response to a perfectly legitimate question… I saw one of my Senators (Blumenthal – CT) a week ago. I asked him to support S. 202 — Audit the Fed.
Blumenthal shook my hand, said nothing and simply laughed.
It’s the S.O.P. for all insiders when opposing something that won’t stand the test public scrutiny.
Dear Neal Kwatra:
Don’t try to bully people who are smarter than you. You just look like a fool doing it.
That is all.
Love,
PW
Ah, there’s the rub, PW. I’m sure that Kwatra is one of the VSP-VIP who cannot conceive of the fact you just mentioned; that, say, a simple, not-rich blogger is smarter than the NYAG’s Chief of Staff. Not possible, in their worldview.
And I sometimes think, had I not come out to OK and Texas from Boston, where my own worldview was dramatically shaken, I might be one of them. Whew, that was close.
I was going to say maybe Kwatra did mishear the invitation. From David’s description, it was said in passing in a hallway social situation, even with allusion to Rick Jacobs as a party host. When I mishear something in that passing social way where it’s worse to stop and dig, I smile and nod and laugh and move on. Though Kwatra’s 100% denial to a reporter is screwy. Still, I wasn’t there.
On the other hand, now that you mention it, laughing political responses — of course. Just think Hillary Clinton. There was a period in the 2008 campaign where she laughed in response to everything. She laughed through all the Sunday talk shows one weekend and made the news for it — including The Daily Show. And then in a Democratic primary debate, Mike Gravel interrupted candidate “fantasyland” and called them out on stage on their votes on Lieberman’s Iran-war-enabling resolution, especially Hillary, who was standing right next to him. And Hillary laughed. It was stunning. And that was the last time we got to see Mike Gravel in a televised debate. He got disappeared, first by NBC/GE for the next debate.
Short version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfW0fokciM
Long version, better context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ubcVZyxOYM
(“And Obama was not even there to vote.” Man, could he call them.)
Plus, I just want to say I had my best typo ever in above passage — “fib leaf” — what a great description of some legislation
Her laughter was a habit induced by her inability to articulate an explanation for her support of war.
And WRT to HRC, look no further than her advocacy for bombing Libya into freedom! We should have seen it coming.
Laughter is a cover for HRC, Kwatra and many other insiders.
Arrogance breeds incompetence. Why be prepared if you are a Master of the Universe? Wing it!
OMG! Did DDayen write “bullshit?”