The House of Representatives, in some cases on a bipartisan basis, is generally getting at the issue of JPMorgan Chase’s multi-billion dollar losses in today’s Financial Services Committee hearing with CEO Jamie Dimon. Clearly, Dimon is miffed by even having to be present for this questioning, an emotion he mostly didn’t have to show before the Senate Banking Committee.
The hearing got off to a stumbling start – Don Manzullo’s extended salon with Dimon about the roots of the Eurozone crisis was downright embarrassing – but the questioning by several members below the top tier of senior leadership was telling. Sean Duffy (R-WI) got at the taxpayer money on the hook when JPMorgan trades $350 billion in their Chief Investment Office. He suggested that JPM is not only too big to fail but too big to manage, a point brought up by several other members on both sides of the aisle. And one Republican – I didn’t catch the name – actually bothered to ask Dimon if he should resign from the board of the New York Federal Reserve (Dimon replied that he doesn’t have any rulemaking role and just gives advice).
But the two stars of the show thus far were Democratic Reps. Gary Ackerman and Brad Sherman. Ackerman asked point-blank if there’s any difference between gambling and investing. Dimon replied that with gambling, the house usually won, to which Ackerman quipped “That has been my experience in investing.” But he got at the central point, that hedging, which entails making a bet that would counteract any other actions in the markets, really bears reveals no difference from gambling. He emphasized that “with hedging, if you’re right, only you win, and if you’re wrong, we all lose.” Precisely. There’s no productive business being done with hedging.
Dimon replied to this by saying that they do a lot of other productive business with the rest of their $2 trillion in assets, so the gentleman from New York should kindly shut his mouth (that’s a paraphrase). And Brad Sherman followed up on that very well. He first said that hundreds if not thousands of small businesses need loans, and instead of accommodating them, “you took $350 billion to London.” Sherman added that JPMorgan holds a $14 billion subsidy through their implicit Too Big to Fail guarantee. This elicited an amusing moment, as Dimon said “We borrow in the marketplace, with the smartest people in the world, with 200 basis points over Treasury.” Sherman replied that “after you lost so much money in London, I would be surprised if people lent you money for less than that.”
The best parts of the hearing were more about the flaws in the business model of a giant mega-bank rather than the specific Fail Whale trade. But there’s definitely more talk exhibited at this hearing about serious constraints on that business model, and while I don’t expect a sea change right away, at least the House appears more aware of the issues than the Senate.
UPDATE: A couple other things on this hearing, which just concluded. First, Dimon was not made to testify under oath, even after Rep. Steven Lynch (D-MA) requested it. House Financial Services Committee chair Spencer Bachus claimed he was just operating under protocol, but former SIGTARP Neil Barofsky just noted on Twitter that he always had to testify under oath. The rich are different from you and me.
Next, Dimon’s waves at patriotism were downright nauseating. He mentioned that “lobbying is a Constitutional right” and that when determining deals, “the most important thing to me is the United States of America.” This was sad, but not as sad as the Democrats from New York City, Carolyn Maloney and Gregory Meeks, begging Dimon to tell them why he based the part of the Chief Investment Office that blew up in London and not New York City. As if it would be better for the country if the Fail Whale trades happened here, or even relevant.
Finally, Brad Miller got in some good questions at the end about Sarbanes-Oxley certification about risk controls. Basically, CEOs must certify risk controls to investors on an ongoing basis, and a lack of disclosure about the Value at Risk (VaR) model changes at CIO could violate this. Dimon looked very nervous answering this question, before essentially trying to dodge it.




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Thanks David.
* Splutter *
Sorry for the OT, but this is huge:
This is as it should be.
When people complain about being ripped off by their bank or mortgage company, they are going to call their House member if anyone. Certainly people know their Senators are bought and paid for by the entity preying on them at that moment.
Good staffers will keep their House Member bosses attuned to this constituent service. Constituent service beyond service academy appointments is virtually absent in Senate offices these days, absent donor status.
I don’t want to hear about “Dimon is miffed.”
I wonder here about “Dimon and his bank are investigated.”
Really? House members don’t get “bought”? House members can be as bought and sold as the Senate. They got lucky on this one and had a better committee that still had spines and/or some ethics intact.
I’ve had Senators easily as much as or more helpful than some of my House members, it depends on the luck of the draw. Some Senators are good, some House members are good. There are rotten apples in both houses and both houses need to clean house of those with ethics issues (or we the people need to do it for them).
Well, it is relevant, but not in the way the questioners would have us believe.
The trades take place in London, if I’m not mistaken, because the regulatory environment is more lenient in London.
From Reuters, June 13th;
JPM uses the London unit to skirt US regulations, and when the regulators threaten to close the loophole, they plead for exemption and delay.
But hey, why the rush?
“the most important thing to me is the subjugation of the United States of America.”
Fixed it for you, Jamie.
Perhaps?
Interesting. The Guardian has it up as breaking news with no article yet. I wonder why Ecuador? Maybe that’s where all us progressives need to move.
Thanks, Dave. Good to know somebody knew enough, and cared enough, to make some sharp points.
If the House is less bought, it might be because, not having to run statewide, they don’t need to raise as much money, and are less beholden to the investment bankers.
Do you suppose they might have even taken to heart the withering mocking of the senate committee hearing?
Interesting that a) it was a Democrat who wanted Dimon under oath, and b) it was a Republican who prevented this from happening. When was the last time a Republican moved to protect a Democratic president’s buddy — or any Democrat? Not any time I can remember. Not unless it was a DINO like Lieberman (aka Nixon’s revenge on Lowell Weicker).
I am sure he DID look nervous — and I would have loved to have seen him working to dodge it! SOX compliance makes a lot of CEOs’ rectums pucker up, along with CFOs’ and CIOs’ (Chief Information Officers). Could it be that the SEC will develop some balls and actually try to investigate?
the most important thing to me is the purchase of the United States Congress.
Perhaps?
The means to the end. Call it a leveraged buy-out.
Or perhaps their constituents are catching on, and they are feeling some heat.
One of my otherwise very uninformed right-wing co-workers mentioned in passing this morning, that Romney was obviously the ‘Monopoly Man’.
I was amazed and happy to hear that coming from someone I would have called a T-partier only the day before.
Progress due to OW$?
This was a nice distraction from 8%+ unemployment. When can congress go back to putting Americans in a position to work rather than trying to get a “gotcha” moment onto the evening news.
If I was Dimon I would move as many JPM jobs over seas as possible. F*ck this congress for wasting everyone’s time.
Hmmm. One can hope…
I watched part of it. It was frustrating. Dimon sidestepped questions about taxpayers being on the hook when the banksters screw up, saying that he personally didn’t think it should be so.
The questions from both sides were suprisingly harsh. I’m pretty sure it was a Republican who framed his question in terms of privatized profits on the way up and socialized losses (paid for by the taxpayers) on the way down.
Americans are still angry. Dimon clearly doesn’t get it.
And the part about Dimon et al taking bailout money to gamble in London rather than extending credit to credit-worthy small and medium businesses in the US was right on.
The rep who made this point said that he and others can give him a list of a hundred such businesses in each of their districts if it would help the banksters get their heads out of their asses.
JP Morgan Chase gave $808,799 to Obama in 2008.
And they are generous to the banking commitee too.
Also from Open Secrets.org;
Dimon has been described as Obama’s favorite banker.
Just sayin’.
I’m not disputing your statement “per se”. But buying representatives is simply not wise purchase. 435 members of the house. With the exeption of the speaker, majority and minority leaders and the two whips, members of the house have very little power and generally very limited influence over legislation. You’d have to by 10-15 of them and then they’d be unruly, constantly askiong for more….just a poor ROI.
Now, senators, that’s where the power is. But, of course, you have to pay more. The key is to get a senator who has a sescret to hide, sex secrets are best, then you can bargain with thse guys.
Check out my new book, “Buying Government Influence for Dummies”. Available at Barnes and Noble.
That’s rather obvious just from your nic.
Bob, just look at that guy. Baby face, controls literally billions of dollar$$$$ and PAC money.
Tell me you wouldn’t invite Jamie for a sleepover at the WH?????
But I’ll tell you this….I’d count the silverware before and after dinner.
I hope Correa stands strong and protects Assange. Too bad his native Australia is complicit with the US and doesn’t protect him. Thanks for posting this news.
The ones “grilling” Dimon are probably just attempting to get more in the way of “contributions” from JPM.
It looks like Dimon and JPM are the financial industry equivalent of Rupert Murdock.
Probably because Rafael Correa rebuffed Hillary “The Hawk” Clinton’s request for a military base in Ecuador and after learning through exposure of a coup attempt by the US through WikiLeaks, the US Ambassador behind it was ejected from the country.
All I want to know is, did Jamie wear his Presidential cufflinks?