Because there wasn’t enough news today, the House of Representatives has voted to find Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. This is the first time a sitting cabinet member has been held in contempt in US history.
The final vote was a thin 255-67. That’s because 108 House Democrats did not vote on the measure, walking out in protest. This included House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Minority Whip Steny Hoyer and third in command James Clyburn. Of those who remained, 65 Democrats voted no, 17 voted yes on contempt, and 1, Dan Lipinski (D-IL), voted “present.” Only two Republicans, Steve LaTourette (R-OH) and Scott Rigell (R-VA), voted against the contempt resolution, with 238 in the affirmative and 1 (Jerry Lewis of California) not voting.
17 aye votes from Democrats is actually lower than what even Democratic leaders were predicting. The NRA announced they would score the vote and go after those who voted against it, which pushed pro-gun Democrats into the aye column, particularly in an election year. But less succumbed to that than expected. Here are the 17:
Altmire, Barrow, Boren, Boswell, Chandler, Critz, Donnelly, Hochul, Kind, Kissell, Matheson, McIntyre, Owens, Peterson, Rahall, Ross, Walz.
Altmire, Boren and Ross are all out of Congress at the end of the year. For the rest, electoral concerns probably played a major role.
In a statement attributed to Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, the White House condemned the contempt vote.
At the beginning of this year, Republicans announced one of their top priorities was to investigate the Administration and to ensure that President Obama was a one-term President. Despite the major economic challenges facing the country, they talked openly about devoting taxpayer-funded, Congressional oversight resources to political purposes.
The problem of gunwalking was a field-driven tactic that dated back to the George W. Bush Administration, and it was this Administration’s Attorney General who ended it. Attorney General Holder has said repeatedly that fighting criminal activity along the Southwest Border – including the illegal trafficking of guns to Mexico has been is a top priority of the Department. Eric Holder has been an excellent Attorney General and just yesterday the Chairman of the House Oversight Committee acknowledged that he had no evidence – or even the suspicion – that the Attorney General knew of the misguided tactics used in this operation.
Yet, Republicans pushed for political theater rather than legitimate Congressional oversight. Over the past fourteen months, the Justice Department accommodated Congressional investigators, producing 7,600 pages of documents, and testifying at eleven Congressional hearings. In an act of good faith, this week the Administration made an additional offer which would have resulted in the Committee getting unprecedented access to documents dispelling any notion of an intent to mislead. But unfortunately, a politically-motivated agenda prevailed and instead of engaging with the President in efforts to create jobs and grow the economy, today we saw the House of Representatives perform a transparently political stunt.
The aftermath of this is really nothing other than an historical stain on the record of this Attorney General. The US Attorney from DC will not end up charging Holder with a crime. The House may also go to court to try to get their subpoenas enforced on certain documents related to their investigation of the Fast and Furious scandal. The contempt resolution wasn’t necessarily needed for that. But I wouldn’t mind seeing an adjudication of executive privilege in this case.




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I’m overjoyed. It’s the Capone theory: if you can’t get him for murder, get him for tax evasion. If you can’t get holder for Chiquita Brands death squads or failure to jail banksters or failure to go after Zero’s death squads, get him on anything you can.
Man, does it feel strange to be thanking members of the R face of the Uniparty.
Toss Holder. Maybe then we can get someone (anyone?) to prosecute Wall Street.
By the way, did anyone else get a robo call from the NRA? I did.
Like most of them, they began with info on how to exercise the right to opt out. But unlike ANY other I have ever received, their instructions for opting out were humanly impossible to perform. You would have to have been expecting the call with a pen and paper in the ready and be able to record all 10 digits of a phone number given in VERY rapid machine-gun fashion. You would be super-human to understand the numbers spoken, never mind record them. Or never mind the resources to make the long distance call.
Right call…
Wrong reason…
‘Nuff said…
I’ve held him in contempt for some time.
Boxturtle (Good for the GOPers. Best the Dems could do to BushCo was the Sternly Worded Letter)
x2.
But with congress, we sometimes have to accept that.
Boxturtle (Don’t think it will hurt Holder’s post DoJ employment options any)
I’m no Holder fan, but this was not the issue to hold him in contempt. Did you know? He’s black. Another racist vote. Thanks for including the list of the cowardly Dems who voted with the NRA. Of course, it is the NRA”s position that guns don’t kill people, People Kill People; but a gun sure makes it easier. Interesting that the Repubs want to investigate guns in the wrong hands when THEY kill US, but not when US kills US in minority communities, emotional disputes, criminal activity, or inner city ghettos. The whole investigation by Issa’s committee should have been about the proliferation of assault weapons, and lax gun laws in border states (and everywhere else). But, what brave democrat is going to make that case????
In other news; Water is wet!
This whole episode is nothing more than dirty politics. Turns out, according to the article in Fortune magazine (yeah, that liberal mag) that the DAs in Arizona could not find selling guns to Mexican drug gangs illegal. An 18 year old could walk into a gun shop in the morning, buy 2000 AK-47s, and that afternoon hand them over to drug gangs. Not illegal.
The ATF was also hamstrung by the lack of any gun laws in Arizona. They wanted to arrest people, but flooding guns to drug lords was not illegal in Arizona. The DAs would not prosecute if they arrested anyone.
More recently, a method was developed to prevent a front man from buying guns in Arizona and providing them to Mexican drug gangs, which the NRA rabidly is fighting against. Thus, that’s why the NRA is counting heads–any restriction on selling guns even to Mexican drug lords through use of a front man is to be opposed at all costs.
The information that Issa is seeking is how the Obama administration planned on addressing the investigation by–clearly that type of info is privileged. Yet, Holder would have turned it over if Issa would stop the investigation. Nope. This is all dirty politics. Issa really is a scoundrel.
Issa needs a scalp. He said that either Holder had to comply or he should resign. That’s it. Really doesn’t have much to do with Fast and Furious facts. See Democracy Now! for further info.
Oh monty, you with your silly facts!
You’re ruining the narrative!
Hey BT, I read your reply at Attaturk’s post just now and the same thing goes for those things you list. All of this has happened before. I know it seems like it’s more urgent and more hopeless because we’re experiencing these events and not just reading about them. I’m not saying that what is going on in this nation is good, benign or even only mildly bad, it’s just that things have been way worse and we’ve lived through it. :)
Eh? I’m kind of on the fence about this one.
I loathe Holder with the intensity of a 1000 white hot suns, but I think I loathe known-CROOK Daryll Issa EVEN MORE.
Issa (“my” rep, no less, waaaah) is such a thieving, lying, scum-dog shithead that I find myself not much able to “celebrate” this manuever. It’s just dirty politics, and frankly, it will come to nothing, imo.
The righties, who are brainwashed endlessly by Fake/Rush, are writing their typically teh stoopit Letters to the Editor displaying how they are clueless about what’s really happened with FnF, but hey, didja know that both Holder & Obama are blackity black black BLACK??????
Sheesh. There’s so much to go after Holder WITH beginning with his Refusal to go after his BFF’s on Wall St.
This is some kind of jeremaid concocted by the NRA, who’s spent Million$$ in LYING endlessly to their brain-dead dittoheads about how blackity black black uppity NoBummer is coming to take away their precious gunz.
And so: now we have this stupidity.
HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS TAB????????
Issa cost CA citizens a boatload when he insisted in ousting sitting Gov Grey Davis in Issa’s narcisstic run for CA Gov… which Issa was foiled by Ahhhnold… but it COST ME (and all CA citizens) a boatload to FUND Issa’s narcissism. HOW MUCH WILL THIS BULLSHIT COST ME????
That’s the question.
Bogus. Not shedding one tear for Holder, but this is freakin’ insane.
Lessee now … first the GOP alienate gays and wimmens, then Messicans and now blacks.
If Romney drafts Paul Ryan on his ticket, this could get entertaining …
If the Fortune article is accurate(interesting timing), why did Holder, when being questioned by Congress, acknowledge that the program existed and why did Obama employ executive privilege to protect a program that wasn’t?
I’m sure there are plenty of US corporations just waiting to employ him to defend them against accusations of hiring death squads to eliminate unionistas in those nations that still recognize unions.
The NRA ran ads saying this “gun-running” operation was done by Obama to pass laws for gun control. 85% of guns in Mexico are from the US. According to Fortune kids were buying large numbers of guns and could not be prosecuted in AZ. The “kids” went into the parking lot and sold the guns to whomever. Next the NRA gets Issa to do the witch-hunt and holds their ratings system over Congress. The crooks seem to me to be the NRA. Like Norquist they can effectively control and bully Congress. Are they getting kick-backs from the US guns to Mexico trade? They need both contempt and investigation.
That revolting little turd John Barrow is my Congresscritter. Writing to him does no good, you get the “send the bitch form letter #4″ crap back. I’ve been writing in the woman who’s primaried him twice for years. If God is gracious he’ll be sent home with his tail between his legs in November. On behalf of GA12 I apologize.
Look on the positive side. Here are two people you do not like engaged in a Public Fight.
Buy some popcorn and enjoy the show. The Goddess Hubris will strike soon, possibly hitting both parties.
Yes, from the Gun Manufacturers.
No problem. Rick Scott (Uniparty, Fl) will pave the way to disenfranchise them all.
Yep. Unsure of veracity of Fortune article, but from where I sit, the NRA has been incredibly manipulative since Obama was elected (well, since forever, but even more so). I’m nearly as sick & tired of the NRA as I am with Wall St & the banks, and that’s saying something.
It’s really difficult to tell if Holder/Obama engaged in wrong-doing with FnF, but I’m CLEAR that NRA’s been manipulative behind the scenes to the deteriment of all concerned. Bastards. ptoui!
heh… well, there is THAT, of course. But again: who picks up the TAB? And that’d be you and me, and imo, not much of anything is going to result from this Kabuki Show fracas.
Also kick-backs from the Ammo Manufacturers.
I gotta go, but I have, somewhere, seen some stats about the exceedingly giant increase in gunz ‘n ammo sales since Obama was elected. And I am constantly seeing Rightwing email forwards that gin up the rubes about how Obama’s gonna “steal their guns.” This is no accident. It’s very deliberate, as is this fake FnF bullshit.
If they actually “prove” something with this… ok. But I’m seriously doubtful. It’s just more NRA hype to make more money for themselves off the gullible credulous dittoheaded rubes.
Not as much contempt as I hold Holder in.
Personally, I’m in favor of holding Holder in irons. Even if this is an NRA witchhunt, the sooner he’s disgraced and dismissed the better, IMO.
Arguments over the “cost” are silly; not only is the “cost” of a Congressional hearing a mere drop in the MIC-driven budget, but the “deficit” is just an excuse to gut the government. We have as much money as we care to print, and we’d have even more if we ended the Fed and stopped paying interest on “debt” so that private bankers can buy gold to protect against an non-existent, nigh-impossible and completely illegal run on the currency by demands to be paid in “specie”. The Fed hasn’t had a reason to exist since 1931.
I would, David. “Executive privilege” is a tool of authoritarianism, with no basis in law. I *never* want to see it reinforced, in any case. Off with [Holder's] head!
The irony of clown car government going after Holder for made up nonsense while applauding him for giving war criminals and corporate criminals a free pass. The entire government needs to be replaced.
You and Bro Tom are legitimizing the NRAs posture.
The gun stores were not selling large numbers of guns until they were requested to do so by the AFT. They were already self regulating inorder not to become a target.
This is really more complicated for us as citizens than what Democrats are making it out to be, and has larger implications that just dead Americans. There are almost 50,000 dead Mexicans and the US has armed both sides- the Government which is infiltrated by the Sinaloa cartel and loz zetas.
If the Republicans, in an attempt to oust Holder for political purposes, happens to open up a whole rotten can of worms – more power to them. This is how the Abramoff Scandal was revealed.
The Democrats didn’t hold these same members to account when they had the chance. It’s Darwinian selection at work.
I don’t even see this as “going after Holder”.
Now, if it was a citizen found in contempt, you’d be in a cell somewhere.
But with Holder, what can they do to him? Drop him from their Christmas card list? He can thumb his nose at them with confidence. Obama has the power to pardon him for ANYTHING.
That was editorial.
What can we do to find both Holder and Congress in contempt of the general public?
You mean the general public have rights? Was i not paying attention and we were given rights.
There are so many more important issues on which to chastise Holder for dereliction of duty. This reminds me a bit of Bill Clinton’s impeachment. The American People should hold Congress in contempt (they do in general disapproval).
I don’t quite understand the relationship between the Attorney General and the President. How much independence does the Attorney General have? Could he prosecute people that the president didn’t want prosecuted?
Whose the problem Holder or the president, and don’t pick both.