I think this anecdote tells you all you need to know about the liberal reaction to the possibility of several Republican Governors opting out of the Medicaid expansion:
Hours after the Supreme Court upheld President Barack Obama’s health law on Thursday, but made its Medicaid expansion optional, senior White House officials were asked by a reporter how they would entice states to participate.
They laughed. It seemed almost inconceivable to them that states would opt out. After all, the federal government will be paying the entire bill for three years for the expanded health insurance program for the poor, from 2014 to 2017, and then picking up at least 90 percent of the costs after that.
Somehow, the laughter hasn’t worked yet! In fact, ten states have already vowed to opt out of the Medicaid expansion, with more potentially on the way. The fact that these states sued to overturn the entire law should have been a tipoff that they wouldn’t exactly jump at the chance to incorporate one important portion of the law if they were given the opportunity to opt out.
I sure wish that Democrats had a better idea than laughter, but I don’t see it. So far they’re smugly opining that no state in their right mind would give up “free money” to cover their citizens. First of all, it’s not free, or at least not entirely free. Medicaid is typically the largest or second-largest line item in a state budget. States would pay $73 billion between 2014 and 2022 on their share of the expansion, which is next to nothing in the long term. But that’s far bigger than the $0 they would be on the hook for, in the wake of the Supreme Court ruling, if they opt out. And as Matt Salo, executive director of the National Association of Medicaid Directors, says, there are potentially larger costs downstream. The federal government would not pick up the tab for anyone already eligible for Medicaid who comes into the system based on the newfound publicity over the coverage expansion. There are also startup costs like information technology and additional personnel to sign up new eligibles. And there’s the risk of cost-shifting from the feds onto the states in the future. I don’t think any of this should factor into the decision, as the benefits outweigh the costs. But for a government-hating Tea Party Republican? Of course they’ll balk! And they will distort the costs in order to meet their ideological goal.
Which is why this unctuous Ezra Klein op-ed about how the Medicaid expansion will be “too good a deal to pass up” is so completely counter-productive. There are some decent numbers in the piece, but this is one of the central errors:
To get a sense of what an incredibly, astonishingly, unbelievably good deal that is, consider this: The federal government currently pays 57 percent of Medicaid’s costs. States pay the rest. And every state participates.
Who cares? These particular governors, in these particular political situations, with these particular constituents, didn’t make that decision. And it’s far easier to deny prospective benefits to a population than to take benefits away from a group that already has them. There’s no comparison between current Medicaid and this expansion, which in the eyes of the Court amounts to a new program.
Klein is right that red states generally would get a better deal on the expansion than states which already cover generously under Medicaid, because a higher percentage of their citizens would get new coverage at the higher rate. Of course, those red states don’t seem particularly concerned by their lack of coverage of the uninsured right now. It hasn’t affected those Republican governors in any political sense.
So Klein closes with the Green Lantern Theory of Health Care Politics, which suggests that if hospital lobbyists just will the expansion into being, it will happen (I love the Democratic reliance on lobbyists here, by the way):
In the short term, a rising Republican star like Haley might have reason to reject that deal. The Republican base hates the law, and so one way to build a national profile right now is to win the GOP’s ongoing “no, I’m the most anti-Obamacare!” contest.
But that won’t last forever. And governors also have to answer to non-Republican voters who don’t want their state missing out on billions in federal dollars, and to the hospitals in their state who have to treat uninsured patients that end up in their emergency rooms, and the insured voters who end up paying for their uninsured brethren.
Funny, the hospital lobbyists know enough to be extremely worried. They thought the bargain was that they would accept $155 billion in cuts to their payment rates in exchange for the additional customers of the Affordable Care Act. Their concern reflects their knowledge that Republican governors won’t be moved. The hospitals know that they would have to pick up a lot of the costs of uncompensated care, without getting the benefits from the expansion. And they don’t sound confident about their magical powers of persuasion:
“You’re going to have a lot of cuts with no corresponding increase in the number of people that hospitals see that have any sort of coverage,” said Bruce Rueben, the president of the Florida Hospital Association. Florida’s hospitals ate $2.55 billion in unpaid bills left by uninsured people in 2010, according to the association, which supported the health care reform law [...]
As in other states, the result in Arizona will be increased pressure on hospitals’ finances, said Peter Wertheim, the vice president for strategic communications at the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association. Arizona hospitals provided $4.8 million in uncompensated care in 2011, according to the association, and the Urban Institute says 463,000 state residents would qualify for the Medicaid expansion. In 2010, 1.2 million Arizonans under 65 were uninsured, or 21 percent of its working-age residents, the Kaiser Family Foundation reports.
“If we opt out, we’re still going to have this issue of people going to hospitals without coverage and continuing to add to the uncompensated care,” Wertheim said.
One positive sign was that Rob McKenna, the Washington Attorney General who filed suit against the ACA and who is running for Governor, shifted his position toward favoring the expansion. But Washington is one of the handful of states who already started implementing the expansion early, so that’s not very surprising.
If the prevailing opinion is the Klein-esque “but they’d have to be crazy not to take it” approach, if that’s how the Democrats plan to smugly fight this one, then millions of low-income Americans had better eat right and exercise, because they’re not going to have any health coverage to fall back on.




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i dont think it is smugness, just being obtuse; maybe ranging into stupid and out of touch.
on the good side, I think it will be a potent GOTV and voter-registration tool to use against the goopers who oppose it.
now, if there were a group like Acorn to expoit that….
I’m not liberal and I ain’t smug. I want to see my fellow American citizens protected from “corporate scumbags,” and “rabid politicians,” in the Red states the way “Parks” needed federal assistance to go to public school, a right.
The slave owners always claimed it cost to much to emancipate the slave, like these sick ideological imbeciles in Red states or some corporate hack at a health insurance corporation, seeking a cheesy way to deny coverage and fuck people!!
Two thoughts here:
1. For years, Democrats have underestimated the GOP, which sets big goals, plays a long game, and refuses to concede defeat. The Democrats have no goals, can’t think past the next election, and concede defeat before the fight begins.
2. The White House, Congressional Democrats, and their allies inside the Beltway live inside a bubble. They have no idea that people are suffering and dying because our health-care system rations care on the basis of wealth and puts the interests of shareholders ahead of patients.
I think it will be a potent GOTV and voter-registration tool to use against the goopers who oppose it.
It would have been had the Obama inner circle and the party mandarins not chosen to blow up Dean’s 50-state strategy and fold every progressive activist group into the cumbersome and ineffective OFA.
If turnout decides this election, Obama could find himself in serious trouble.
IMHO, the conservatives in these states are saying to themselves and each other: “If we don’t give these [slur for people of color] healthcare, hopefully they’ll move to California.” In their minds, that’s a win-win.
I think you have a point David.
What liberals (or frankly just plain sane people) repeatedly fail to comprehend is that the Right wing doesn’t want to do anything to save or improve the lives of the poor. In fact they see it as a positive campaign item to openly claim to punishing the poor eg, drug testing for food stamps, voter id requirements etc.
Turning down aid for poor people is a winner in their book. They are seeking the votes of the resentful hateful.
Exactly.
In the same way that Arizona is hoping ‘expensive’ illegals will find the political environment in Arizona too troublesome, and opt to leave for a more friendly state, the Red States are hoping, (or maybe just intimating to their constituants) that by refusing to expand the Medicaid program for their states, they’ll encourage the various catagories of slackers and other poor people to go somewhere else.
Could this have been foreseen by the Democrats?
It should have been.
Do they care?
Obviously not much.
Why not pick a few states whose finances are especially dire, perhaps more so than most others, but which signed on to the expansion anyway and committed some finances in the out years. Illinois comes to mind.
Maybe they are on to something. Their accountants saw the net financial benefit of signing on. They could show, by the numbers, how they determined that to be the case even for the out years.
Then get those experts on screen to refute the terrible ten (or whatever the number is), who want to slither away.
Still, I think the most sure fire way to put this issue to bed would be to geld it. The Feds would extend 100% subsidy permanently and grant the states a hold harmless, and no state would have any reason or excuse for not signing on.
Simple answer to simple question: Yes
LIke your #1, spot on. “Useless and clueless” are my two adjectives to describe the current democratic party.
As for your #2, that’s been a given for quite a while.
These two things may just “bring us down”.
Agree 100%
… and hopefully the poor will move out of state.
Agreed.
The republicans used to say, “I’ve got mine. You go get yours”.
Now they say,
“I’ve got mine, screw you.”
Agreed. In ’08 lots of people came out to vote for “Hope and Change”. They have lost the former and seen none of the latter. Many will not vote this time.
This is the southe(R)n strategy, is it not?
Ezra Klein: “To get a sense of what an incredibly, astonishingly, unbelievably good deal that is, consider this: The federal government currently pays 57 percent of Medicaid’s costs. States pay the rest. And every state participates.”
That’s a good amount of spin there. Sure, every state participates but they do not participate at the same level. The devil is in the details.
It’s call “brown-shirting.” Call them on it!
…and so they will sow their own fate. If the reason not to vote is because there is not change, fast enough to suit the desires of folks, in light of blatant obstruction in congress, I then suggest one goes and plays Russian roulette with Mitt and the crew as in the Deer Hunter. I do not support by any stretch all that Obama has done. However I do know what is my best interests and it wasn’t Mitt when Gov. of “Assachusettes,” and it won’t be Mitt if he and his corporate appeasers gain control if the White House. Not that the other choice is in my best interests either.
A little more smuggery was unveiled this morning on the alex wagner gabfest.
She was on morning joke with charlie cook who is predicting a five to eight seat gain for the house dems.
If two years of jackasses like allen west and joe walsh if the dems can’t rustle up more than eight opponents and succeed you can kiss this thing goodbye.
It maybe this internal polling that gave mcconnell the stones to go out on fox and be stupid after boner was stupid to nora o’donnell on cbs is telling them their majority is safe in the house and the senate will tip.
There isn’t a single reliable media outlet that isn’t owned by a republican corporation for us to get real numbers here.
I tried to search out what allen west’s polling data in florida was like with little success. Let alone if he is successful at being reelected.
I’m not sure it is a case of smug or pathetic incompetence.
These people really want to seem them suffer. Moving away would deny them that pleasure. Wanting or hoping for the poor and suffering to move out of state gives them credit for having some conscience in not wanting to see them live in worn out double wides and tar paper shacks and die every cold or heat wave.
Yep.
Yes, migration is likely. SCOTUS concocted a new, perverse financial incentive, and it will have legs.
“The other choice?” We have more than 2 choices. Perhaps if people started using them the Democratic party would be more responsive to our priorities.
“The Democrats have no goals, can’t think past the next election, and concede defeat before the fight begins.”
Exactly. I shall enjoy asking the next Democratic candidiate that calls asking for money, “What are the goals of the Democratic party?”
I doubt any of them will get further than, “stop the evil republicans”.
Is there a limited time window in which to opt in? Otherwsie, at some point someone else will be Governor in each of these states.
Vizzini!
I’d say that is a problem now since Obama and the Democrats falsely claimed that Obamacare was fully paid for, but this is showing that it isn’t. With these false claims of Obamacare being fully paid for, who wants to pay for this by taking it out state employee pensions? In California we’ve got the Democratic Governor Jerry Brown and he’s working on “Pension Reform” – when there’s cost-shifting to the states combined with lying by the politicians, they take it out of state pensions and other services.
That Obamacare was on the side of corporate lobbyists was no surprise, but I see no reason why I should care about the corporate lobbyists.
Of course yes,dems they don’t care,republicans either,i wonder what’s the bid deal about this?.they don’t care at all,the wise judge authorized the opt out,nothing anybody can do,opt out it’s the law,the same law that enslaved people with the mandate,the jewel of the crown like witch Pelosi called,AHCA is all about political and corporations,not about people.
Thought number 3.
They, both “parties” of the duopoly, are either sociopaths or puppets of the sociopaths and could not care less about the welfare of the 99%.
Your ballot may indeed list more than two choices, but the electronic voting machines are programmed to only recognize those candidates labeled (R) or (D).
I’m pretty sure they’ll wax poetic about how Obama will fulfill all those hopes and dreams he promised in his 2008 campaign if given a second term.
They aren’t complacent. I feel fairly confident they plan on using the poor as a political football as usual. “Elect us and we’ll promise you rainbows and puppies and unicorns not like those mean ol’ republicans who won’t give poor children healthcare.” See, the ads practically write themselves. (What I wouldn’t give to have an honest option that really cares about every constituency, not just the rich.)
All that too many Democrats care about is crowing about a phony political victory. What the ACA does and what the SC decision really means won’t be allowed to get in the way of their merry making.
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