Harry Reid’s office let out more details on what is becoming a popular parlor game, determining who told him about Mitt Romney’s tax returns.
“This person is an investor in Bain Capital, a Republican also, and somebody who has been dealing with Romney’s company for a long, long time and he has direct knowledge of this,” said Reid aide Jose Parra, referring to Romney’s tax returns [...]
Parra teased the details in an interview with Mario Solis-Marich on KTLK’s Diverse LA radio program, according to audio of the show provided by the station.
Later, Parra backpedaled and said he didn’t know the party affiliation of the source, though he sounded pretty confident on the radio show.
This set off a round of fevered speculation, with Markos Moulitsas musing that the source was Jon Huntsman, Sr., a Reid donor who is business partners with the managing director for Bain (a separate blogger pointed to Huntsman, Jr., who ran for President this year). I don’t think it’s been established that Huntsman, Sr. invested in Bain, which is the most definitive detail we have, but we do have a Huntsman connection to this story. Abby Huntsman, daughter of Jon Jr. and granddaughter of Jon Sr., co-authored a story with Ryan Grim back in July that cited “Bain sources.”
Meanwhile, while the Obama campaign has kept their distance from Reid’s specific claim, they pull on a separate thread in a new TV ad, highlighting the “Son of Boss” tax scandal, where Romney, in a role as head of the auditing committee for Marriott, personally approved of a tax shelter that reported fictional losses of over $70 million. Just to have some fun, the ad throws in a Romney interview with ABC News where he says he doesn’t know if he ever paid a lower tax rate than the 13.9%, asking out loud whether Romney ever paid 10,5 or 0% in taxes in a given year. “Isn’t it time for Romney to come clean,” the ad concludes. The Obama camp sent out a memorandum stressing all these tax avoidance strategies revolving around Romney.
First, CNN published an op-ed by two tax experts who describe in detail a shelter employed by Marriott – and overseen by Romney – to report fictional losses exceeding $70 million. Romney was the head of the company’s audit committee at the time Marriott employed this strategy that the experts, Peter C. Canellos and Edward D. Kleinbard, call “perhaps the largest tax avoidance scheme in history.” Marriott was on the vanguard of tax avoidance, and the op-ed’s authors rightly note that the Republican nominee’s “endorsement of this stratagem provides insight into Romney’s professional ethics and attitude toward tax compliance obligations.”
Second, Bloomberg News reported that under Mitt Romney’s leadership, Bain Capital avoided taxes by funneling the profits it made from buying and selling Italy’s version of the Yellow Pages through a shell corporation in Luxembourg, a widely recognized tax haven. The billion-dollar deal was “one of the biggest windfalls” of Romney’s tenure at Bain.
Additionally, the Los Angeles Times reported that the Romneys went to great lengths to lower their property-tax bill on their $12 million La Jolla, Calif., home. The story raises questions about whether the Romneys grossly exaggerated the devaluation of their beachfront mansion to lessen their tax burden.
This is really not what the Romney campaign wants to talk about, and they’ll spend the next three months trying to talk about something else. Where this connects to policy – and Romney’s tax plan, which envisions even lower tax rates on wealthy people with tax avoidance strategies like him – that will be a tall order.




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Compare and contrast. Which is more believable?
DDay:
James Stewart in the NYT:
Where’s the story detailing the Dims complicity in allowing tax evasion for the 1%?
allan @1
Oh, the old piano player in the whorehouse defense.
lol
Reid is acting like he might reveal the source I thought he was just speculating and daring Mitt to release his tax returns.
That would be quite a knockout punch, even though Guy Smiley will pretend it’s irrelevant and Fox will begin a massive smear campaign against the ‘bitter angry’ source.
Shouldn’t there be an IRS audit, if they had any evidence of tax evasion. Whose in charge in DC? Cheney?
Who ever leaked this to Reid will face Mitt’s retaliation if a Mormon leaked the information then religious schism of some kind might be a problem.
Thank you oldgold. I had a much snarkier response but you did it for me.
ThingsComeUndone, A more appropriate handle to this mess could not be more appropriate than your name.
I really do not think that Harry Reid would have said this if in the end he could not prove what he is saying. Imho, Harry chooses his battles and his words carefully.
He had to know that the right wing noise machine would go batshit crazy on him and Mitt’s “put up or shut up” is just the icing on the cake for me.
On edit, I should not have used the word “appropriate” so much, sorry.
If Reid actually reveals the source that would be the political move of the year maybe the decade. Mitt and Fox News will attack who ever the source is but it seems clear that even if Reid names a source that Mitt is terrified of releasing his tax returns.
If you are right this could easily be the biggest reason Mitt loses the election. If Mitt loses then the rich not paying taxes will be a campaign issue. Also the Corporate Wing of the GOP won’t be able to get any fundy votes next time for their candidates.
Someone said on one of the blogs that this issue is what I read the last thing at night and the first thing in the morning.
I too am on the lookout for the latest news on the issue.
So many have said different things and different takes but I really believe that Mitt has to hide his taxes or it will destroy his candidacy totally.
None of the following are my original ideas here:
Mitt shortchanged the tithing at the Church.
Mitt fears if he shows his taxes or non paying of taxes he is done.
Mitt never specifically mentions paying “income taxes” when he says he “pays taxes, lots of taxes…”
If Mitt does reveal his taxes and shelters, it is “game over” for the 1% who do the same thing and live in fear that once we “You people” find out how they shelter their taxes, there will be major repercussions throughout the country on tax reform, cutting shelters, closer examination of everyone’s returns esp. the 1%.
These are some of the things I learned in this mess and it goes on and on…
I should add, these are in many respects jmho.
The issue here is tax reform. Obama can beat him half to death with that issue. And he can take it to the elites too. Guess where most people will fall when they understand those people pay maybe nothing in some cases or very little in others. Time to end thie carried interest scam these asholes have been using as well as the tax shelters. Most people have nothing at all like that. Sound fair to you?
That’s a rhetorical question, right????
Hey, “Deep Throat” stayed anonymous for some 40 years and only outed himself.
I always thought Reid had a source. Reliable, I wasn’t sure of that. BUt, either Romney made a lot more than he’s admitted to, had lots of money offshore, or “avoided” taxes with questionable tactics.
Or, of course, ALL THREE.
i HEARD HE TOOK A $700,000 “business” writeoff for his wife’s Horse riding HOBBY.
BREAKING NEWS: Daily Kos is reporting that Reid’s “elongated larynx” could be Jon Huntsman, Sr.
Makes sense.
Considering that James B. Stewart is the guy who wrote a hit job on Hillary Clinton called Blood Sport whose main accusation revolved around a mistake made by Stewart’s failure to read the other side of a document, I’ll go with DDay any day.
Was listening to the wad on Glen Beck this am to hear their take on this issue.
They claim the O ad is so unfair to Willard suggesting he pays 0 taxes.
To refute the ad they say Willard would be in jail if he paid zero taxes therefore he musta paid his taxes. Info for the low info masses.
Heh. More like, if he paid zero taxes he’d be vacationing at the Bohemian Grove. Wonder if he was.
I don’t think retribution against Huntsman by the Elders will be a problem. I have felt all along that Willard has been hiding income from his cult, which can trigger excommunication (money is above all in that organization). Thus, his real reluctance to disclose his income doesn’t stem from the secular taxes he has been ducking, but the spiritual ones – and that’s what prompted Huntsman to speak out of school to a fellow Mormon, Reid.
Despite being a high bishop in the cult, Rommers is not the most observant… Anyone hear the oft-reported story of how he cussed a blue streak – dropping several F-bombs – at a traffic-directing volunteer during the SLC Olympics? Legendary! Above the Laws of Man and Moroni…
I’ve often said that among the least trustworthy people in the world are the very religious who make it a point to let you know how religious they are. They put on a front of false piety in order to gain your trust so that they can take advantage when you let your guard down. They can rationalize their behavior because they are so well practiced at the heavy-duty rationalizations necessary to maintain their ridiculous beliefs in the face of reality.
I bring this up because of a comment someone made several days ago that he was going to vote for Obama because Mormons are so crooked. (Marriott is owned by Mormons.) I think it is unfair to think that all Mormons are that way, but I suspect the person commenting had plenty of first-hand knowledge to backup his bias. Personally, I’ve had very little contact with Mormons, though someone I know had a business relationship with a devout Mormon who made it known that he was very religious. The Mormon turned out to be a total scam artist.
Romney strikes me as that type of guy. He tithes to his church, but bends the rules to shaft his countrymen.
Until the last two or three weeks, I’ve felt strongly that Obama would lose the election due to the weak economy. My thinking began to change when Romney’s nondisclosure of his tax returns became a big deal. I now understand why the betting lines and Nate Silver favor Obama to win the election. It’s because Romney, due to his background, is about the worst candidate the Republicans could field at this time.
Romney personifies all that people mistrust and blame for the state of the economy. He’s a very wealthy financial sector insider who is known for gaming the system. He has enriched himself at the expense of others whom he’s bankrupted and laid off. He’s been involved in the offshoring of manufacturing. He takes advantage of laws tailored to unfairly serve the people in his class so that they pay little to nothing in taxes on millions of dollars of income.
In the eyes of many, Romney isn’t Daniel Webster. He’s the devil.
I agree. You “shortchange” God, and you got a BIG problem. And I’m talking HVAC.
Is that a literary reference???
I though you promised me you wouldn’t do that anymore. Now I gotta go look that up Google.
That’s a pretty complex story line…….. I think I’ll rent the movie.
Romney probably paid a very low tax rate, but it was likely mostly legal, except for the possible Swiss bank account. THAT’S the problem we should be discussing during this election cycle – the way the tax code has been manipulated to benefit the very wealthy. A look at Romney’s returns could be a good way to open such a discussion, and head off even more tax cuts for the wealthy, to be paid for by cuts to Medicare and Social Securiy.
Huntsman Sr. is denying that he is Reid’s source.
The plot thickens?
Agreed.
Let’s see if we get a denial from junior.
I’m still convinced it matters little whether Romney paid zero or not–there are bound to be so many nuggets for the Dems to seize on there in the fine print when and if they are released that Obama profits one way or the other. And if Romney fails to release they beat him with his lack of transparency in comparison to his own more trustworthy father right through early November.
I don’t get why Mr. Dayen expresses doubt about the efficacy of this stratagem every time he writes about it, which is almost daily. If the right-wing noise machine is shitting their pants about it publicly you bet it’s got them worried.
Yes, all this gets us is an eviscerated social security, jewel in the crown for Wall Street, something Romney might not be able to deliver, but that’s another story.