Accompanying Paul Ryan’s radical fiscal vision is perhaps an even more radical vision with respect to women’s health. Ryan opposes abortion in all cases, including rape or incest, and has sponsored a bill that perhaps goes as far as possible to restrict a woman’s right to choose legal medical procedures.
He was a cosponsor of the Sanctity of Human Life Act, a federal bill defining fertilized eggs as human beings, which, if passed, would criminalize some forms of birth control and in vitro fertilization. The National Right to Life Committee has scored his voting record 100 percent every year since he entered the House in 1999. “I’m as pro-life as a person gets,” he told The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack in 2010. “You’re not going to have a truce.”
Indeed, Ryan exemplifies a strange sort of ideological hybrid that now dominates the GOP. On economic issues, he’s a hardcore libertarian who once said, “[T]he reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker…it would be Ayn Rand. And the fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism.” Yet when it comes to women’s control of their bodies, he quickly turns into a statist. “In the state of nature—the ‘law of the jungle’—the determination of who ‘qualifies’ as a human being is left to private individuals or chosen groups,” he wrote in a 2010 essay titled “The Cause of Life Can’t Be Severed From the Cause of Freedom.” “In a justly organized community, however, government exists to secure the right to life and the other human rights that follow from that primary right.”
Here’s that essay, still prominently featured on Ryan’s official US House website. In it, Ryan tries to square this fiscal libertarianism with his extreme interventionism in matters of women’s health. As Michelle Goldberg notes, he never mentions the word “woman” in the essay, which is pretty abstract. He tries to make a distinction between economic freedom and what he describes as “human rights,” saying that in economic terms, “government’s role is very limited when it comes to our specific choices,” but on these human rights questions, “The rights of any entity that qualifies as “human” must be protected.” In this essay he performs the familiar conservative pro-life tactic of equating Roe v. Wade with the Dred Scott decision, something George W. Bush famously dog whistled in a 2004 debate. And he adds this:
Now, after America has won the last century’s hard-fought struggles against unequal human rights in the forms of totalitarianism abroad and segregation at home, I cannot believe any official or citizen can still defend the notion that an unborn human being has no rights that an older person is bound to respect.
That’s the line in the sand here. Ryan believes the unborn are fully human and must be protected. That’s a deeply radical take with implications for birth control and in vitro fertilization and a whole host of other policies. He believes in forcing women to birth children, as their choice cannot trump the unborn’s life. And on the question of whether women should face murder charges for abortions, he has said, obliquely, is that “If it’s illegal, it’s illegal.”
Mitt Romney has been all over the place on this question, as with many others, throughout his political career. But his choice of running mate says plenty about who he would seek to appeal to in his Presidency. There was no way a pro-choice Republican like Condi Rice would ever, ever get that VP nod.





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Thanks DDay, icymi, I thought this might have some nice legs for the reality based.
Politiscoop
Here’s the play. The thugs are going to run a base election. The key is suppressing the Democratic base vote in FL OH and PA, and possibly WI. It’s a risky strategy, but it is the only one that stands a chance. Ryan secures their base.
Let’s recap how we got to the point in the debate where it is acceptable to force a woman to have a child against her will and disallow something as simple as a birth control pill.
Republicans proposed crap making abortion illegal and called Democrats baby killers for not going along. Democrats instead of arguing the opposing view tweaked things so that people who oppose choice wouldn’t have to pay (even though the rest of us that oppose money going to faith based programs or wars don’t get exemptions carved out for us)and back door funded through faith initiatives the right of the religious to legislate morality. Flash forward: Now we get to argue with the authoritarian assholes about birth control and we have Democratic idiots in Congress willing to go along AGAIN.
God I hate BOTH parties and the fake political rhethoric that comes along with election time.
Does this have the appearance of impropriety, as in insider trading? Perhaps laws against this sort of activity and exploiting one’s knowledge gained through official communications….Just wondering of course; or is it but not for thee? PS. Yes, very base, as said above.
All right, I’ll bring it up.
Paul and Janna Ryan have only three children, which is below par for a nice Catholic couple. Do they now or have they ever used contraception? Did they use methods not approved by Mother Church? And did someone foot the bill for it?
If the answer to one or more of these questions is “yes,” I’ll be happy to stand Mr. Ryan to a big, foaming imperial pint of STFU.
I grew up thinking the Catholic Church stood for social justice but left anyway because well, a lot of reasons not the least of which was my loss of faith. Still I continued to stand for social justice. Imagine how surprised I was to find that there was no basis for my belief that the church stood for social justice, not historically and not now. Then along comes these patriarchal creeps like Ryan and all I can say is the best possible antidote to abortion and birth control is them on a steady diet of celibacy. The hypocrites. I feel nothing but contempt for them and their mouths talking as if they knew something. They are morons and they are polluting the air with their gibberish and babbling. Meanwhile, there are real people, including children and the old who they conveniently walk around and why? because they read the BS of a psychopath like Ayn Rand? Yet they bow down to bankers and corporatists and other frauds in the name of liberty? May the whole lot of them find out what happens when women get really, really angry.
The choice of Paul Ryan as running mate will cause Mitt Romney to lose the senior vote. When you add that to the fact that he’s already behind in the polls with women,18-30 year olds,latinos,and gays, It begins to look like his only supporters are going to be old white men. That’s going to make it very difficult in November.
Then along comes these patriarchal creeps like Ryan and all I can say is the best possible antidote to abortion and birth control is them on a steady diet of celibacy.
That, plus (a) putting all lawsuits alleging paternity on an accelerated docket; and (b) rigorously enforcing child-support decrees, including liberal use of the contempt power for nonpayment. Make men have–pun intended–some skin in the game.
With this, the Democrats should make hay. But hey, they’re the Democrats.
Ryan is deeply anti-AnyoneHeDoesn’tKnowPersonally.
He fucking hates people, like most Republicans and Libertarians.
But I have read that the Catholic Church didn’t in fact become anti-abortion until very late. Just wasn’t an issue in the middle ages, up to the modern period. Long time since I read this, in a book by a Spanish feminist in the 80s. Does that accord with your understanding? (The point–or a point–would be that these things are hardly set out by any God.)
“Let’s recap how we got to the point in the debate where it is acceptable to force a woman to have a child against her will and disallow something as simple as a birth control pill. . .”
but you can’t mess with their gun (aherm) or tax them, or tell them how to run their goldang bidness.
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Equals cretinous hoohoo repeated long enough to (sorta) become ideology.
It’s our new imaginary line in the sand…oh goody.
The last one kinda got kicked around to the point of non existence(what with Hyde, partial birth, conscience rules) so let’s by all means recreate a new one.
I’m totally going to trust the Democrats to not screw this line up.Baahahahahahahaa.
choice is every bit as important for women beyond childbearing years, too. our generation are not the spoiled baby boomer generation … we are the caregiver generation. and we live with parents in nursing homes, raising grandchildren, caring at home for disabled or diseased family members, juggling multiple jobs, if we have them, gouging prices at the pump, rising prices at the grocery, and, if we’re lucky, a roof still over our heads, for now. Every one of us has been touched by at least one of the above, along with our friends and families. and real housewives and dancing horses are not our reality. Not the reality. These are our choices. oh, and we are one more thing, too…voters.
It’s the Patriarchy ticket. STFU and do as we say not as we do BITCHES! is their motto.
The GOP Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are:
1) Pro Life
2) Pro Gun rights
3) Pro Traditional Marriage
Isn’t That a surprise? NOT!
When has the GOP nominated anyone who doesn’t support their basic beliefs?
Now on the Democrats side we have President Obama, and VP Biden
1) Pro Choice, but not pro abortion
2) Pro Gun Rights, but don’t want to talk about it too much.
3) Pro Traditional Marriage, but think it’s okay if States want to allow Gay Marriage, but won’t do anything to promote it.
Ryan is “deeply” anti-abortion?? Color me utterly unsurprised. Hate to break it to anyone here, but Ryan’s “deeply” anti-abortion “stance” will play well with a LOT of Tea Party types, including women of all ages. That, and Ryan’s “professed” obescience to Ayn Rand will also play well with that crowd. I’m not talking about teh stoopit either.
Trust me, MANY Tea party types have been heavily propogandized to willingly give up Medicare & Soc Sec as long as women can be forced to have kids against their will (but then, of course, those women ‘n kids are on their own). This is a big PLUS for the RMoney campaign IMHO.
Don’t like it. Just saying…
Aside from serving Wall Street as their top shill for the Bush TARP bailout for banksters, “in 2011, Ryan joined all House Republicans and 13 Democrats in his vote to keep Big Oil tax loopholes as part of the FY 2011 spending bill. His budget would retain a decade’s worth of oil tax breaks worth $40 billion, while cutting “billions of dollars from investments to develop alternative fuels and clean energy technologies that would serve as substitutes for oil.” For instance, it “calls for a $3 billion cut in energy programs in FY 2013 alone” and would spend only $150 million over five years– or 20 percent of what was invested in 2012– on energy programs.” Not too sincere, huh? Especially not when you consider that Ryan “and his wife, Janna, own stakes in four family companies that lease land in Texas and Oklahoma to the very energy companies that benefit from the tax subsidies in Ryan’s budget plan,” the Daily Beast reported in June of 2011. “Ryan’s father-in-law, Daniel Little, who runs the companies, told Newsweek and The Daily Beast that the family companies are currently leasing the land for mining and drilling to energy giants such as Chesapeake Energy, Devon, and XTO Energy, a recently acquired subsidiary of ExxonMobil
No Exceptions for the life of the mother, or rape, or incest.
NO EXCEPTIONS
In a strange way, I admire this approach. I mean, how can one be consistent that “it’s life, and life is paramount” if one supports some abortions. It’s philosophically inconsistent. I’d rather see all abortion opponents take this view; it would make defeating them easier, which is why they took the carve-out for incest, rape, and the life of the mother.
But Ryan’s view is ‘purer’ and I admire him for it. I think he’ll go to hell, if there is such a place, but I admire his consistency. And it makes the lines in the sand much clearer.
You’ll have to have your rapists’ babies, ladies, even if he’s your brother or your dad.
If you don’t support exceptions for the life of the mother than you sure as Hades shouldn’t be able to argue pro life or say that “life is paramount.”
I don’t admire this approach at all. I think it’s sick to tell a 12 year old raped by her uncle to compete for her body’s resources with a fetus.
I might admire it if Mr Ryan promised me that his moral obligation to “God’s will” meant that he and his family would forgo ANY medical intervention. I mean after all I’m pretty sure God knew what He was doing when He gives someone a disease. Who is Ryan to decide he knows better than God and take an antibiotic or to allow his family members to do so? You either believe in medical intervention or you don’t. You don’t get to pick and chose which condition is God sanctioned.
uhhhhhhhhhmmmm Teddy
what about the life of the mother? that doesnt count
they are FOS!!!
This is my understanding as well. In fact, Acquinas spoke in terms of quickening, i.e. when there was movement as the line. It was not until the turn of the 20th century when the church bore down. I don’t think you are going to get too many people to say they are affirmatively for abortion. That would be ridiculous. It is always a sad event and should be a sad event. However, we take life in our hands every day as we must as mature human beings. Every time we prioritize here, we neglect there. Given everything some life—and let’s just say it begins at conception—just can’t be allowed to continue. And we all know that the whole debate comes down to who gets to decide.
Sister Helen Prejean has taken a higher road: no abortion, no death penalty. But that means dignity and economic care for life for the mother and child and dignity and care in prison for the killer. That’s pure. Not my deal, but I admire her. Note: this is not Phyllis Schaffley who simply wants to condemn everyone to hell which is a lot easier than being of real assistance. All I have ever heard from these buzzards are no abortion. They never show up after birth, they don’t help with disabled children, they don’t want to pay more taxes for services, they don’t want anything but to turn every single person who is not an elite or an elite want to be into a slave. For some reason which is just beyond me, women are favored for slavery.
That’s not Ryan’s position, he’s against all abortions except in cases where the life of the mother is in danger, not the health of the mother, just the life of the mother.
Saving Privateer Ryan.
The Rude Pundit’s post today points out that Paul “Privateer” Ryan’s family business (Ryan Incorporated) was built constructing public roads by Ryan’s grandfather between the 1910s and 1960s. IOW, Paul “Privateer” Ryan’s family was on the public dole, receiving taxpayer money into the millions, building public highways, expanding our nation’s infrastructure, all of which “Ayn Rand” Ryan wants to cut funding for now, including all social programs, while cutting taxes on multi-millionaires like himself. What a freaking hypocrite, like Romney, like all the Republicans.
And like most Republicans, Paul “Privateer” Ryan wants government out of the lives of people like him, but he has no problem using the government to assault the right of American women to choose (along with their doctor) what they want for themselves regarding their body and their lives. Paul “Privateer” Ryan is another very, very dangerous Republican, like Mitt Romney, like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney before this latest deadly Republican candidate duo. How many Americans will die this time around if Republicans Romney and Ryan sneak their way into the White House?
The whole dichtomy is authoritarianism wrapped in false morality.
They cherry pick and then ascribe their positions to God’s. Quite frankly as a Christian I find it appalling. Furthermore, as a Christian I reject the idea that if a fetus has a soul that the death they experience is anything more than a physical death and a loss of its potential(both good and bad)on this planet. You’d figure folks obsessed with heaven and hell would be perfectly okay with sending a soul back home to God where it will be loved.
That’s a really thin line in most cases. Additionally who is Ryan to force a woman to give up her vitamins and minerals and deal with the consequences of a pregnancy(seizures, diabetes, kidney damage).
I think the next time a Ryan family member goes to the doctor’s office we should ALL weigh in on what their treatment plan should be. Fair is fair.
The alignment of the Opus Dei hardcore Catholics and the Mormons shows just how insane and desperate the Republicans truly are. That the conservative Catholics would step into a Mormon temple let alone vote for one of these 2 clown clones shows the depravity of these grasping groups. It’s like a can of mixed nuts being sold as roasted cashews. What a minute: it’s America! Call them beer nuts and this odd pairing might just win the hearts, minds and taste buds of the independent voters. Afterall, no matter if you lie about the packaging or not they’re not really mislabeled. They’re all still nuts, right?
Well said.
If you ever thought medicare for all was a program with wide support, you gotta believe there is no way these assholes can win.
Not me. I despise the son of a bitch.
IIRC, one of the writer’s most provocative arguments was that one should not be ashamed of being “pro-abortion,” demonization of the word itself notwithstanding, because being “human” betokened a degree of consciousness that a fetus had in no way attained. . . becoming human, for her, was a life-long endeavor. I don’t wholly agree with this latter, by the way, although the idea of becoming human as a project is neat. It does reinforce the argument that we should take much better care of the living, including those who transgress against society, than we currently do. . . that anti-abortion zealots fervor is misplaced. Once you’re against capital punishment, too, I used to say to demonstrators in Ann Arbor, then let’s sit down and have a serious conversation. Then you can show me about really caring about women, too–making birth control available, teaching sex ed., looking out for and educating poor women, ending the warrior/rape culture that puts them in peril. In truth, theirs is a punitive exercise, rarely if ever founded on compassion.
I would like to see a link, please, because I believe you are misinformed.
exerpt from a Post article:
“Abortion: The Catholic congressman is staunchly against abortion rights and backed by several anti-abortion groups. He co-sponsored the Sanctity of Human Life Act and Right to Life Act, which both say life begins at the moment of fertilization. In 2009, he voted to prohibit federal money from being used to pay for an abortion or for any part of a health plan that covers abortion — except when the abortion results from rape or incest or when the pregnancy threatens the woman’s life. Despite his voting record, he’s given little indication, especially in recent years, that he wants to go to the ramparts on the issue. He’s endorsed candidates who see abortion differently, saying he is willing to agree to disagree “with mutual respect.” Many years earlier, he backed bans on so-called partial birth abortion that made an exception for the life of the mother, but not for rape or incest.”
And the benefit of forcing women to bring unwanted children into the world and having them grow up in adverse conditions and making taxpayers pay for welfare and medical costs is …. oh that’s right, they’re going to repeal the Affordable Care Act and restrict or eliminate welfare …. so the child will grow up in really adverse poverty …. how is this Christian, humane, civil, wise? how does it lead to social stability, how will these children be upright citizens? Is there something I’m missing? Are the wealthy going to divulge their assets to raise these children?
Oh man, there goes their women’s votes…oh wait.
Of course not, these children will not be offspring of the “job creators” and therefore like the majority of us deserve poverty and scraps./s
Yes! … if the Lifer-Birthers are going to regulate women’s healthcare to the point where they’re using government to interfere with doctor’s decisions, then we should be consulted over their and their families health care decisions with their doctors. Medical records could even be required to be public (unlike tax returns). Tweak this one up, you have a very good idea.