Amid the fallout from a Pennsylvania judge allowing the state’s voter ID law to advance, the Philadelphia Inquirer, um, inquires as to whether the law could affect the outcome of the Presidential election:
Political strategists and experts in election law caution that it is difficult to predict the electoral impact of such laws in Pennsylvania and the other states that have adopted similarly restrictive measures [...]
“It’s certainly our fear that it’s going to cut down turnout in Philadelphia, and a lot of races are close in the state of Pennsylvania,” U.S. Rep. Bob Brady, who also is the city’s Democratic Party chairman, told The Inquirer after the Wednesday ruling. “There’s a very good chance that there will be some impact.” [...]
Academic studies that have sought to evaluate effects of the stricter ballot-access laws, such as those that require photo ID, estimate turnout decreasing by an average of about 2 percent of registered voters in a state.
Really, voter suppression laws just try to shave off some votes on the margins. If you can lower turnout by 2%, and you can target that reduction so that it impacts the most heavily Democratic areas, in a close race that can obviously make a difference. It’s not determinative, but it certainly helps the cause.
That’s why you’re seeing a coordinated effort, in swing states controlled by Republicans, to suppress the vote. Florida’s Rick Scott announced yesterday that he would soon engage in a new voter purge effort, armed with data from the Department of Homeland Security’s SAVE database. This means that he will attempt to throw voters off the rolls within 80 days of the election, a highly unusual occurrence, especially because it would take at least 60 days to mail out letters to potential purge victims and await a response.
In Ohio, Secretary of State Jon Husted tried to split the hours for early voting, so that Republican counties would have weekend hours and longer office times, and Democratic counties would have shorter weekday hours. Husted has now vowed to offer uniform hours for early voting, but under the more restrictive standard, meaning that early voters will still have trouble reaching the polls. And this inevitably suppresses turnout at the margins, and makes it harder on those without flexible schedules to vote. Inevitably, that correlates with Democratic voters, particularly low-income voters in the major cities.
I don’t really get the sense that Democrats are taking these assaults on voting seriously; if they did, they would have gotten off their rears after the 2000 election and demanded some uniform standards and real changes, like voting on the weekends instead of on a Tuesday, or same-day voter registration, or universal voter registration, or paper ballots. Instead, they are relying on a creaky, broken system, and not well. The Boston Globe reports today that the Obama campaign’s voter registration effort is not paying off. In Pennsylvania, getting registered and eligible voters proper ID for the polls is arguably more important, and there is an effort to make that happen from local Democrats. But PennDOT offices are scarce, the state has one of the lowest rates of public employees relative to the population in the country, and we’re already seeing long lines and uninformed clerks for those trying to get IDs. 13 of the 71 PennDOT offices are only open once a week.
This inattention to the fundamental difficulties with voting in America, and the roadblocks being put up by Republicans at every turn, could come back and bite Democrats in November. It’s also antithetical to democracy, but you know…




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The democrats don’t have the necessary balls to stop the republican drive to a permanent majority.
Black box voting, gerrymandering from their position in fixed elections and now wholesale racial voter suppression.
The ends justify destroying the country to protect the 1%ers.
There’s a very misguided faith that has everyone believing everyone else wouldn’t really do anything to subvert democracy. Many of us have been screaming about this for years. IN 2002 and 2004, I didn’t even have much success getting progressive outlets to cover voter suppression.
Another key problem is our side’s division into “issue” advocacy. Environmental groups will tell you their boards and contributors want their money spent on environmental issues only, not issues of democracy that if solved would make the advancing of the environmental agenda much easier. I use them as an example only, don’t mean to single them out. It’s a structural problem.
This is only one of a large basket of tactics being employed, because Republicans are afraid of open and honest and fair elections. They only care about the will of the people if it matches their will.
1. Voter ID laws
2. Purges of voter rolls
3. Gerrymandered districts
4. Secret source code machine vote counts
5. Citizens United
I once compiled a list of their tactics. It was pretty long and all to capture small advantages.
When the Astros baseball team was in the World Series a few years ago, they got swept, four games to none. Sounds like a blowout? In truth there were two games in extra innings and the other two were one run games. That is what these tiny advantages add up to.
I think a photo ID requirement is essential to prevent fraud on either side.
But, neither Dems nor Repubs want a national ID card, so what then?
The Democratic Party obviously doesn’t give a shit about voting rights and would rather lose some elections than have their own shell games undermined.
There are at least a couple of Facebook pages I’m subscribed to that have a message every day about voter suppression and signing petitions. I also have a lot of friends, mostly from high school, still living in PA that are decrying this suppression situation. I don’t think it’s quite as quiet out there as is thought.
Stratocruiser -
Throw out the gerrymandered districts argument – its just silly. Its just fine when we do it, but its not okay when Repubs do it? You know that if we’d had more control of the states this last election, we’d be gerrymandering the hell out of strong Republican districts.
And if you think that most fairly powerful Dems in Congress dont just love Citizens United, you’re out of your mind. Politicians are all the same after they get into office – they love that free money, and the bigger the contribution the better.
For years they’ve been living in an alternate reality,
where a demographic Manifest Destiny will ensure a permanent Democratic majority.
The enemy had other plans.
Voter fraud is a fraudulent issue. People have been identifying themselves at the polls all along. These new laws are intended solely to put hurdles in the paths of Democratic voters who will have difficulty obtaining IDs. Anyone who visits a site like this (as opposed to, say, redstate.com) should know that.
Political fraud is the real issue and in this case it’s being perpetrated by the GOP.
Come, now.. you can’t be that naive to think that voter fraud doesn’t exist. Either party will do whatever they think they can get away with.. remember in the 2010 when all of those college students were registering to vote even though they didnt even live in the state, and they all used the same house address?
Political fraud is being committed by both wings of the Money Party because they know they can do whatever they please with impunity.
After SCOTUS’s unconstitutional interference with the 2000 election was met with a whimper instead of massive street demonstrations by the electorate, the writing was on the wall. Elections mean diddly-squat in this country except as a tool to fool the increasingly ignorant American people into believing this moribund democracy actually has life.
Just another step down.
could democrats be more icompetent?
shitty republican-light policies
third rate political messaging
unwilling to fight to have votes counted
unwilling to stand up for the middle class
unwilling to stand up for the poor
A true measure of incompetence (unless Obama was planning from the first to
be a one term president) is his failure to set the Department of Justice onto these
injustices- This should have been done starting in 2009. Secondly, when
I got a Drivers license in PA (decades ago),it was much faster to PAY someone
to go to Harrisburg and “stand in line” for me.Assuming this is still a
in place in PA,just how many poor people or blue collar workers have the $
to get their IDs this way?.And even if it can be done by computer,I raise the
same objection (these groups have less access and knowledge of computers)
Tyrell,
What part of “open and honest and fair elections” was unclear?
Is this possibly a case of transference? Do unto others before they do unto you? We’d do it, so you’d do it too, given the chance?
And finally, “How dare you think you’re better than we are?”
As I said, what part of “open and honest and fair elections” was unclear?
On NPR:
The problem is that the ID has to be proof of citizenship. A passport would do that, but fewer than 20 percent of the population carry passports. There are a lot of photo id’s, but only the passport or some other photographic evidence of citizenship can stand as proof that one is entitled to vote.
If someone black of latino shows up with a driver’s licence, the returning officer will simply say, anyone can get a driver’s licence. Where’s your proof of citizenship? Since these regulations will be enforced locally, districts with high percentages of white republicans won’t be checked.
Tyrell is a just a paid troll. We had this conversation yesterday. He is just jamming up bandwidth.
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A very comfortable alternate reality. The disabling outcomes of these disenfranchisements don’t much affect them. Their entitlements are secure.
You may want to check your sources, if you have any. The law states:
First, I am one of those that wouldnt see the big deal. However, a few years back I more or less ceased to exist. It was a royal pain and involved a lot of circular logic and numerous fees to get back to being a “legal” person. It can be much more complcated than people think. The scrap of paper you need to get another scrap of paper requires the scrap of paper you are trying to get in the first place. I had to at one point bring my mother along! People also seem to forget how complicated the simpliest things were made in the name of 9/11.
Now even if you manage to navigate the circular maze to get the ID, It can take a month or longer to get the “picture id”. If people arent starting this NOW!!!!!, many wont even have something on election day.
My belief is that we need NATIONAL STANDARDS when it comes to federal elections. If we can find billions a day to spend on some inexplicable mission in afghanistan, we could scrape up a few billion for an election overhaul
You are naive to think it is an issue. Fraudulent voter registration very occasionally occurs, but people voting fraudulently even much less. Political fraud as in ballot box stuffing, uncounted votes, and denying people their constitutional right to vote is the real issue.
And you too are a fraud – or a fool.
A disruptor, if he can hook even one person into his argument.
This is more revealing. What could explain this “inattention”? Some may say the Democrats are generally weak; but I wonder if it’s because the Democrats figure there isn’t a problem. Or that what it actually amounts to is just a lot of noise. Or, maybe they’re dodging it because they’re willing to take a fall. How also revealing it is that the voting purges that take place come from — no drumroll necessary — Republicans. And that we are “shocked” by this! Of course the follow-up question is: “What are the important figures in the Democratic Party going to do about it?” Oh, nothing!? Hmm. Wonder why that is!
The fix is in. I am in Pa. This election will be a total farce. Sadly, we can expect the disenfranchised to respond accordingly and pay the price. God help us.