To Christians, a fetus is an unborn child, evidenced by biblical language, and so killing a child is murder no matter how it might be conceived. Since the U.S. is a strongly Christian country this position will hold.

Not all Republicans are distancing themselves:

Rep. Steve King: I’ve Never Heard Of A Girl Getting Pregnant From Statutory Rape Or Incest
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/steve-king-statutory-rape.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

To some Christians that is true. I’m a Christian and I don’t believe a fetus is human. A fetus is a potential human. I know I’m not the only Christian who believe this. Please don’t lump all of us together with the RWNJs.

“Distancing” yourself from someone who thinkks exactly like you do can be kinda tricky.

I’m struck that the NRSC needs to do this, to elevate radio talkers as the most influential voices in the conservative movement. We’ve always suspected this to be the case, but here’s confirmation.

But, but, but… what does BOSS Limbaugh have to say?? I hear he’s real BIG in the “show me” state; got statues ‘n all. We already know El Lushbo’s “take” on all those Slutty McSlutt Whores who must be BEGGING for it if some XY-chromosome type decides for force himself upon said Tramp. Has El Lusbo given Akin his big fat thumbs up or down?? Isn’t that what’s important to these conservatives?? Authoritarian Big Daddy Rush gotta be followed.

Barry might consider a thank you note to Todd…

Word has it that Rush is on vacation somewhere on the Viagra Islands.

This is what happens when the head of the GOP goes on vacation.

I’m sure Rush will get it all sorted out next week when he’s back.

Akin may very well go on to win.

Such Christians should logically advocate that women on the receiving end of an abortion face jail time (or stoning, depending on how Old Testament we’re going to go).

I’ve yet to hear Perkins, Robertson or any of my conservative family or friends do so.

Why?

ding ding ding ding
we have a winner.

rapeublicans
mitt (r-money)
Paul (r-ayn)
akin (r-mo)

rush was on this AM.
he was of two minds:
–dont want to tell Akin what to do. he is a big boy.
–i get why he should get out of the race. I have no argument with that.

And killing untold millions of Muslims is God’s will too for these nut cases.

My old Logic and Language instructor, Carl Cohen, would have Mr. King for lunch.

That’s my bet.

Such Christians should logically advocate that women on the receiving end of an abortion face jail time (or stoning, depending on how Old Testament we’re going to go).

Eh? Don’t you worry. The Talibangelicals will have these written into law shortly. We have not yet seen the end of this, and it will come to pass that women who are raped (whether someone parses it out into being “legitmate” or “forced” or whatever) will be the ones to face stern & strict consequences for “egging” (take that anyway you want) on the the dog’s “right hand man” into “doing it to her.”

Not kidding. No snark. Speaking just for myself, I think things are headed this way. And sad to say, as long as US sheep citizens complacently do nothing about it… well, this will be the consequence.

Thanks. That’s interesting.

It appears that the Boss isn’t *totally* “thrilled” with Akin’s perspective.

I hear-tell that Boss Limbaugh got spanked pretty badly for his Slutty McSlutt Whore – she’s just *begging for it* tramp – comments. I hear-tell his advertisers fled & Boss’s loss leader status has become a bigger Loss.

So… hmmm… we’ll see…

Exactly. That’s why I’m uncomfortable about Dems doing the Happy Snoopy Dance over Akin’s staying in. Are memories so short that they don’t remember rejoicing when Reagan became the Repub nominee?

If Missouri’s gonna be lost — and it looks like it will — how is it somehow “better” to lose it to a nutjob like Akin?

I agree, and I’m also appalled that the D’s are reported to have spent $1.5 million promoting Akins. They helped give an ignorant, misogynist bigot a platform, may or may not have given conservative McCaskill some points in the election, and convinced some wavering Democratic voters to vote for conservative Obama and other D’s. And all the D’s need to do is be not-Akins, without having to do, or even promise to do, anything substantive to actually protect and defend reproductive rights? How is any of this a good thing?

I think Akin will win “The Blow Me State.” Akin could say Mother Theresa was Hitler in drag and still win. Why? Because we live in a country that is divided and that divide has hardened into concrete. You will either vote Democratic or Republican and it won’t matter what your guy says. There are precious few people willing to step outside the duopoly box.

No doubt. But they are too chickenshit to own up to it on the front end, using logic and reason. If they did so, they would lose. They are going to wait until things are worse, blame problems on a scapegoat group (gays, blacks, liberals or all of the above – none of those three fared well in 1930′s Germany)and impose Sharia using fear.

Christians believing that life begins at conception quote the bible.

–”children & sons in womb” Gen 25:21-22; 2 Ki 19:3; Ruth 1:11
–”mother” of unborn child Num 12:12; Lk 1:43
– “baby leapt for joy” in mother’s womb Lk 1:41,44
Gen. 25:21,22 In Genesis 25:21,22, Rebekah conceived twins, and “the children struggled together within her.” That which was conceived was called a “child” between the conception and the birth.
The Hebrew word used here (BEN) is the most common Old Testament word for a child or son. When used for the physical offspring of humans, it consistently refers to distinct human individuals (see Gen. 25:1-4; 3:16; etc.). Job 3:3
On the very night of Job’s conception it could have been said, “There is a man-child conceived.” The word for “man-child” (Heb. GEBER) elsewhere means “man,” i.e., a human individual (see Job 3:23; 4:17; 10:5; Psalms 127:5; 128:4; etc.).
Job 3:16 Babies that die before birth are called “infants” that never saw light. This is exactly like babies that are aborted. This word (Heb. OLEL) always and without exception refers to human individuals (cf. Hosea 13:16; Psalm 8:2; Joel 2:16).
etc.
http://www.bible.ca/s-Abortion.htm

Is the bible wrong?

OTOH.

“The Bible places no value on fetuses or infants less than one month old.

And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. — Leviticus 27:6

Fetuses and infants less than one month old are not considered persons.

Number the children of Levi after the house of their fathers, by their families: every male from a month old and upward shalt thou number them. And Moses numbered them according to the word of the LORD. — Numbers 3:15-16

God sometimes approves of killing fetuses.

And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? … Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. — Numbers 31:15-17″

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/abortion.html

More to the point, the ethics of abortion is religious dogma, rather than science. I am content with believers keeping the faith, and foregoing abortion. Christians in China don’t have that luxury. OTOH, I am not content with believers imposing their dogma on non-believers.

Authoritarianism from the left or right (think USSR and Nazi Germany) are both wrong, and to be opposed.

OTOH, I am not content with believers imposing their dogma on non-believers.

Exactly. Thank you, Diogenes.

I think you are right. He wins Missouri and the Repugs lose the WH.

BTW the Repugs do agree with him, they just don’t want a spotlight shone on it.

Now Akin has the ultimate cred with the true believing base–he has stuck it to the gopper establishment, a sure-fire boost come election time.

I’m sure he will be laughing his ass off come 5pm Central Time.

Louie Gohmert says something this crazy every Wednesday, as per his contract.

Actually, I feel like Gohmert’s kind of been falling down on the job lately. Allen West has also been substandard of late. What are we paying these people for, if not to provide amusement?

Your bible references are irrelevant.

Leviticus 27:6
ages of paying taxes

Numbers 3:15-16
only males more than a month old counted in census

Numbers 31:15-17
kill men and women

OTOH, I am not content with believers imposing their dogma on non-believers.

It’s done frequently in the US. Let’s bow our heads and pray, etc. So you’re not content in the U.S.?

Well, after the rehab job that Obama’s done on the republicans and so many of their discredited policies, and after almost 4 years in the White House, and considering the clout that he HAD, it’s fair to dump a lot of the shit squarely in HIS little “centrist” punchbowl.

Tanbark,

Absolutely correct. I was not going to vote Obama, but the zombie-eyed granny starver gives pause for consideration. One wonders, out of three hundred million Americans, the two jokers at the top of the ticket are the best we have?

If so, we are over.

“Your bible references are irrelevant.”

There it is – the basis of the Reformation, the reason Protestants are split among hundreds of denominations. I am right, and you are wrong.

By definition, the Creator cannot be defined by the creation. “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.”

I and everyone else noticed you skipped over the first question. Do you think women who receive an abortion should go to jail?

Your vice-presidential candidate does.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/11/paul-ryan-s-extreme-abortion-views.html