I want to go back to Corey Robin’s incredible take on austerity politics in the Democratic Party, through the lens of how Republicans once embraced, and then abandoned it. The fact that you can draw a line in inverse proportion between what party embraces austerity and what party has the dominant position in the politics of the age should tell you what you need to know about its importance. By and large, we saw a liberal era in the 1950s and 1960s (regardless of what party actually ruled) followed by a conservative era in the 1980s that stretches to this day. And the factor of austerity politics plays a big role in that.
Over time, Republicans stopped trying to be the responsible “tax collectors for the welfare state,” and started becoming the starve-the-beast Republicans we know now. These theories are flawed – cutting taxes does not, actually, lead to cutting spending, at least not when Republicans are in office – but politically they force the other side into an extremely disadvantageous position. I was pleased to see Jude Wanniski discussed in Robin’s piece. Years ago for Calitics I wrote this story about Wanniski’s “Two Santa Claus” theory, which is essentially the road that national Republicans took:
Democrats, (Wanniski) said, had been able to be “Santa Clauses” by giving people things from the largesse of the federal government. Republicans could do that, too – spending could actually increase. Plus, Republicans could be double Santa Clauses by cutting people’s taxes! For working people it would only be a small token – a few hundred dollars a year on average – but would be heavily marketed. And for the rich it would amount to hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts. The rich, in turn, would use that money to import or build more stuff to market, thus increasing supply and stimulating the economy. And that growth in the economy would mean that the people still paying taxes would pay more because they were earning more.
There was no way, Wanniski said, that the Democrats could ever win again. They’d have to be anti-Santas by raising taxes, or anti-Santas by cutting spending. Either one would lose them elections.
And Democrats took the bait. Robin goes through the Republican evolution, and then unearths this convention speech from Walter Mondale in 1984 making the evolution complete. Democrats killed Santa Claus, and they have been doing the same thing for the last 30 years.
Consider the two major presidential cycles of the last three decades: Reagan/Bush-Clinton and Bush-Obama.
During the 1980s, the Republicans cut taxes and ran up huge deficits. Then Bill Clinton came into office and announced his intention to reduce deficits. Anxious to appease Robert Rubin and the bond market, he abandoned whatever pretense of a progressive economic agenda he had set out during the campaign. He and the Democrats raised taxes and allowed government spending to decline dramatically as a percentage of GDP. By the end of his second term, Clinton had managed to generate a surplus—with the explicit purpose of not only reducing the debt but also shoring up Social Security—only to have the Bush White House squander that surplus through massive tax cuts and increased military spending.
When Barack Obama assumed office in 2008, he faced a similar conundrum as Clinton. The Bush Republicans had run up massive deficits and debt. Though the financial crisis (and his overwhelming victory) seemed to give Obama the warrant to spend—remember when we were all Keynesians again?—he was constrained by congressional Republicans and conservative elements in his own party, including the Wall Streeters who had been among his earliest supporters and happened to have a disproportionate influence in the White House. All of these forces seemed to worry more about the deficit than they did about the recession. The result, of course, was a much smaller stimulus package than many progressives had hoped for.
Similarly, the health care bill was sold on “bending the cost curve” and constrained by statutory paygo, which made it impossible to bring forward a new program with any deficit spending. Obama turned to austerity rhetorically in 2010 when there were large majorities in Congress, and by the middle of that year fiscal policy had turned negative at the federal level. We have the lowest number of federal employees as a share of the population since the 1960s, and the lowest amount of public investment in terms of discretionary spending as a share of GDP since the Eisenhower Administration. I know this because Obama touts it, over and over.
Robin is talking in political terms about the dangers of austerity. You can argue about the propriety of budgetary discipline; certainly at this point we need larger deficits. On politics, it’s not arguable that the party of austerity has severe problems with the public in terms of getting their stated goals into action. Robin concludes:
So here we are, entering a campaign with Obama begging the media to recognize him and the Democrats as the party of austerity—for being willing to make difficult and deep cuts to Medicare and Social Security—and Republicans happily calling for a constitutional amendment requiring congressional super majorities for tax increases [...]
Ironically, it was during the heyday of the New Deal that we first got a glimpse of the way we live now—from none other than John Kenneth Galbraith. As Bartlett shows, when Galbraith learned of Kennedy’s plans for a large tax cut in 1962, he shrewdly observed in his diary that “lower tax revenues will become a ceiling on spending.” Though the economics of the tax cut were impeccably Keynesian, Galbraith was far more concerned about the politics, which he thought were dangerous. As he explained in his testimony to Congress in 1965:
“I was never as enthusiastic as many of my fellow economists over the tax reductions of last year. The case for it as an isolated action was undoubtedly good. But there was danger that conservatives, once introduced to the delights of tax reduction, would like it too much. Tax reduction would then become a substitute for increased outlays on urgent social needs. We would have a new and reactionary form of Keynesianism with which to contend.”
There’s a wide gulf between being the party of responsibility and the party of progress. Being the “austerians of reactionary Keynesianism,” as Robin calls it, does nothing to endear America to a policy framework over the long term.




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Robin talks about the politics of austerity, not the economics, which is fine considering Robin doesn’t pretend to be an economist.
However, we must talk about the economics, too.
According to post-Keynesian theory, the deficit needs to be large enough to offset “demand leakages,” as per the equation Federal Deficit = Net Private Savings + Trade Deficit.
Since people usually wish to save a percentage of their income, and since we have a trade deficit, that means we MUST run a budget deficit. The only way to sustain a a balanced budget is with a large trade surplus, which is not realistic.
Temporarily balancing the budget, as Clinton did, forced households deeply in debt and eventually crashed the economy.
The deficit is not a problem. The debt is not a problem. The problem is that politicians don’t understand that the deficit needs to offset demand leakages.
It’s true: the Republicans have become the party that decries taxes and spending and then spends, swelling the military and police state. The Dems have become the party that tries, through a less and less believable slights of hand, to keep those who depend on government to survive in the fold while preaching responsible government. . . yet are totally unable to cut the billions the Republicans swell right-wing coffers. Who suffers? Anyone who is vulnerable or dependent is fair game.
Dems may have the demographic numbers, but ideologically they’re painted deep into a corner. And yeah, it’s Clinton who really cut the knees out of the thing for Dems.
Maybe, just maybe it’s at a time like this when society begins to break down under the contradictions, and you get change. Certainly, popular clamor for it is rising. The problem is that the mode of production is militarism–literally, murder–and it’s in fine shape, with Dems and Republicans united around its preservation. Obama is absolutely 100% behind the American Project, even if the SEALs will still shit on him for not openly anointing himself in blood.
In this kind of scenario you’re more likely to get fascism, the appeasement of it by Dems only holding out so long. If not this cycle, the next one.
“Sleights” of hand; I need an editor.
In fairness to Clinton, no one could have predicted that Gore’s 2000 campaign would have been that bad.
Why can’t Democrats paint the Republican Party as the party of massive deficits and debt?
It’s like there’s collusion between these two political parties and their super-rich masters, who are all working together to keep the American people from thinking too much about what they’re really doing to this country.
Likewise, military spending is half of what it was as a percent of GDP during the Kennedy Administraion. The dangers of austerity come in many forms.
Condi Rice, speaking at the RNC, stated that because of Obama, America has not promulgated a sufficient number of “Free Trade” deals.
According to Condi, these Free Trade Pacts are a wonderful ointment that cures all manner of economic ills.
China has made ten or more Free Trade Deals, while America, under Hussein Obama, has made far too few to have worked their marvelous effect on the ‘murcan economy.
Cond’s remarks were rec’d by thunderous applause, of course.
During the Kennedy administration, our most recent wars were World War II and “the Korean conflict.” We don’t fight now the way we did then, nor are the people we fight fighting us because their nations have declared war on us.
Rest assured, there is still plenty of fat in the military budget. Not only that, but almost every government agency has armed personnel. And then there’s Homeland Security, which did not exist in Kennedy’s day.
Robin:
Oh, bullshit. “Happened to have a disproportionate influence?” That’s why I have trouble with this guy, Robin. It was Obama’s fault, for christ’s sake. HE could choose his advisors. HE shut out other voices.
All nonsense. Blaming it on politicians in the past and his advisors. BULLSHIT!
The Democratic Party has always had a conservative wing.
When the Civil Rights Act lost Democrats the Solid South, Democratics, especially Southern Democrats with Presidential aspirations, panicked about electoral votes.
This panic reached its apex when Reagan carried so many states. That enabled the Southern wing of the Party to put Super Delegates in place, something they had been trying to do for years, and also to take over the Democratic Party, especially after the first DLC Presidential candidate got the Oval Office.
From then on, liberals became the enemy.
As far as Santa Claus, give me a break. If I pay into Social Security all my life, how is my collecting Social Security make me a little kid getting something nice for Christmas because some adults feels benevolent toward me? If I pay income taxes all my life, how is funding public education so people can vote intelligently (in theory, anyway) playing Sana Clause to me?
How very fucking disrespectful to voters and taxpayers to suggest that the federal government, whose only source of income is our money, is playing Santa Claus to us.
Again, I ask, what planet do politicians and pundits live on that they can even think this way?
Running a surplus in good times, while not advisable, is nowhere near as heinous as reducing the deficit in a recession. Robin is trying to shift the blame here.
Let’s not forget the dishonesty in the mortgage industry and the speculation in mortgage derivatives that Clinton enabled by repeal of Glass Steagall.
In fairness to Gore, Clinton paved the way for an allegedly born again candidate to run on restoring honor to the White House.
Clinton may have survived scandal and impeachment with his personal popularity intact, but other Democrats did not survive all that as unscathed as he did.
Actually, Clinton’s surplus was not good for us. The surplus obviously set a precedent and now Obama feels compelled to emulate him. But that surplus arguably resulted in Bush’s first recession. The MMT economists tell us that if you run a surplus in the federal government and you have deficit in your current account, it necessarily means the private sector has a deficit — loses net financial assets. So you don’t want to cut the deficit ever to zero or run a surplus.
And, secondly, as Bush so wisely (in this case) intoned, it was time to give money back, therefore a tax cut. And the game is on as DD says. Now you can’t spend anymore or you will increase the deficit. That is where we are today. And you will pay hell to ever again raise taxes as we are also finding out.
The democrats and Obama, if they want to govern, will have to escape this trap. It should be via a tax increase as well as a large stimulus. Of the two I would opt for more stimulus and let the tax increase wait. In the end we really don’t need the taxes except to help redistribute income or wealth from the top end to the lower end of incomes. The governement can never go broke as a household, a state or Greece can – -another of Obama’s serious mistakes, and maybe, just maybe the worst.
They need to invite a few of the MMT economists over to the WH for a few days to educate themselves. Don’t invite Timmy or Larry.
When was this?
Name the Republican Majority congress where this was the case.
Dayen is repeating an Obama talking point, again. Remember, Obama is trying to get the message out that he is an economic conservative. As barefoot accountant pointed out (“Obama is so confident of his base that he reminds us again over the weekend that he will cut ss”).
Another Obama talking point promoted by Dayen here, because Dayen repeats it but does not refute it, is that “cuts to social security are neceesary.” That is an Obama, and a Bowles-Simpson and therefore an Obama, talking point.
Bowles Simpson et. al. are getting ready to cut ss in 2013, and they are preparing the groundwork now by repeating a simple, but untrue, message on the premise that people will believe whatever untruths if 1.) if you keep repeating it and 2.) keep it simple.
Bowles-Simpson’s and therefore Obama’s meesage now, in preparation for 2013 is: “cuts to social security are necessary.”
This is exactly EXACTLY one message repeated in this Dayen article. That Dayen does not refute such an important point, seems to suggest Dayen works for Obama/Bowles Simpson:
Also, Dayen repeats another Obama talking point in this article–that the Obama cannot get things done because of the Republicans. Dayen does not refute that at all, in the article.
I really see a lot of Obama press releases coming from Dayen.
Uh huh.
Robin just makes shit up.
“Excuses why” does not change the fact that calling “the lowest number of federal employees as a share of the population since the 1960s, and the lowest amount of public investment in terms of discretionary spending as a share of GDP since the Eisenhower Administration” austerity is the same as calling “military spending is half of what it was as a percent of GDP during the Kennedy Administraion” austerity.
If austerity is bad and spending is good let’s hire federal employees, increase discretionary spending and military spending. Goose – Gander.
It seems to be more of a strategy developed over time. They always wanted lower taxes and at some point many of them realized that it was the dems who wanted to support the welfare state. So why help them? Just stop trying to maintain the tax base. Fits right into the libertarian ideas. Maybe that is why they call this shit neo liberal. (I don’t know, not a historian.)
Excellent article.
I do think we are headed either for fascism or a revolution. You have in round numbers, about 38% of the people vote republican mostly, and about 42% votre ddemocratic, mostly. That leaves 20% who move back and forth. THEY are the ones that will need to start the revolution.
Agreed. And the 99% are just fodder for them.
Agreed. “Barney Fife” thin.
I don’t know as though it is fair to say he supports O for this. DD is reporting what is evidently what Obama believes, and not what may be the best course of action.For Obama politically (as opposed to the economics or the liberal views) that may be the best course. At least he thinks so. And not to get in the weeds about this, but most people seem to agree that deficits are too high. So now may not be the best time to change horses. I don’t agree but then, I’m not running for anything.
I agree that this can’t continue indefinitely. The rich will either set up a fascist like state or some people may start a lot of trouble. I am hoping that along the way we can find a leader who can organize a resistance. I think the electoral system leads to a reduction in available choices. I think without it someone like Jill Stein would have a real chance.
The 2000 election was Gore’s to lose. He lost because he ran against the Clinton Administration and because he ran a poor campaign. Clinton didn’t pave the way for Bush. Gore lost. We paid for it.
And as a Keynesian economist who reads your piece with the same laughter that the “Laffer curve” provoked among real Keynesian economists, for your equation is merely a restatement of the Laffer curve in a more marketable but still equally unworkable equation, the weakness of that position that is the 800-lbs.-gorilla-in-the-room that gets ignored in all of this is that the “rising tides float all boats” only works until you run aground. Which is exactly where we are and was entirely predictable, worse yet, was predicted but ignored.
Your statement, and the author’s posit, makes the unworkable assumption that a middle class will go on buying things when there ceases to be a middle class. What your formula proposes is nothing less than an invitation into third world economics: a tiny über-wealthy class, a somewhat larger but still small remnant-of-the-middle-class merchant class and a vast underclass unable to buy anything other than the essentials of life and those only if they resort to an agrarian lifestyle or intense backyard farming to supplement their starvation incomes.
The only thing that is going to work in this situation is either to forgo any pretense of “directing” and “assisting” a “free market economy” with abandonment of capitalism and wholesale adoption of socialism. Or a “directed” and “assisted” “capitalist economy” to the extent of near socialism by abandoning the World Trade Association completely; renouncing all “Free Trade Agreements”; abandonment of the Federal Reserve system and replacing it with the Department of the Treasury Department’s assumption of all of the Feds former duties overseen only by the Secretary of the Treasury reporting to the President; allowing a “central planning” of all sectors of the economy unseen since WWII at a Departmental Secretary level reporting to the President; and, finally, the imposition of tariffs that account for the failure of the country of origin of the manufactured or agricultural goods or services in question to impose and enforce to our satisfaction a minimum wage, worker safety statutes, unemployment compensation statutes and workers’ injury compensation statutes, a wholly government run cradle-to-grave medical system, environmental statutes, the right of workers to bargain collectively and for the government to act as the ultimate insurer of worker safety should a collective bargaining work stoppage be necessary and any the other surcharges that puts our manufacturers on an equal footing with their manufacturers. Firms manufacturing more than 50% of their product or conducting more than 50% of their revenue generating business must be incorporated in the US. Such corporations must report all profits made abroad using the rules of our tax code to calculate profit and taxed at a margin that brings the corporate tax up to the equivalent tax paid by an equivalent corporate tax of earnings made in this country.
Should any country wishing to sell in our country impose a retaliatory tariff on our manufactured or agricultural goods that does not meet the standards set out in our tariff formula, their tariff formula on ALL of their imported goods and services would then automatically be doubled and would double again for each thirty days that they wish to impose the retaliatory tariff. This model roughly parallels the international trade form previously called “mercantilism” and was at times very successful form or less successful form of international trade existing before “country” lacked the impact that it does today. In a time of dire straits, it appears the only workable model to bring the essential manufacturing jobs back on-shore. “Most favored nation” status and all the other little bribes that undermine our middle class simply would not exist in the outlined formula. It is a simple calculation of the costs incurred by manufacturers in this country imposed by the government and protected by tariff.
I would love to continue our discussion of economics, but this response is already too long. Suffice it to say that anyone who would label our times as “post-Keynesian” is simply a neoliberal, “free market”, Chicago School huckster of Wizard of Oz flash-bang or is, even worse, a supply side believing, non-economist with equally bad economic theory holding forth as an economist. In either case, it provides no solution to our current dilemma which is a festering sore that will only turn gangrenous, resulting in the ultimate sacrifice or penalty, however you view this.
What enabled Clinton to run a surplus in spite of trade deficits were the fictional assets of the stock market and dot com boom. In an illusive “new economy” it appeared that the boom could be, nay should be tapped.
The new economy was a new capitalist fraud.
As to your blanket rejection of budget surplus, under Keynesianism there should be times surplus is appropriate, just as there are times deficit is appropriate, in order to manage growth.
But what would Keynes say if growth were longer possible as the market is constructed? Would he say that right-sizing the economy for a new stasis is necessary? Or perhaps he would think that the future “job creators” have priority.
Perhaps Keynes would then agree austerity is necessary – and run a surplus.
It’s not stupidity that denies MMTists an audience.
Capitalism is fraud.
And as a Keynesian economist who reads your piece with the same laughter that the “Laffer curve” provoked among real Keynesian economists, for your equation is merely a restatement of the Laffer curve in a more marketable but still equally unworkable equation, the weakness of that position that is the 800-lbs.-gorilla-in-the-room that gets ignored in all of this is that the “rising tides float all boats” only works until you run aground. Which is exactly where we are and was entirely predictable, worse yet, was predicted but ignored.
Your statement, and the author’s posit, makes the unworkable assumption that a middle class will go on buying things when there ceases to be a middle class. What your formula proposes is nothing less than an invitation into third world economics: a tiny über-wealthy class, a somewhat larger but still small remnant-of-the-middle-class merchant class and a vast underclass unable to buy anything other than the essentials of life and those only if they resort to an agrarian lifestyle or intense backyard farming to supplement their starvation incomes.
The only thing that is going to work in this situation is either to forgo any pretense of “directing” and “assisting” a “free market economy” with abandonment of capitalism and wholesale adoption of socialism. Or a “directed” and “assisted” “capitalist economy” to the extent of near socialism by abandoning the World Trade Association completely; renouncing all “Free Trade Agreements”; abandonment of the Federal Reserve system and replacing it with the Department of the Treasury Department’s assumption of all of the Feds former duties overseen only by the Secretary of the Treasury reporting to the President; allowing a “central planning” of all sectors of the economy unseen since WWII at a Departmental Secretary level reporting to the President; and, finally, the imposition of tariffs that account for the failure of the country of origin of the manufactured or agricultural goods or services in question to impose and enforce to our satisfaction a minimum wage, worker safety statutes, unemployment compensation statutes and workers’ injury compensation statutes, a wholly government run cradle-to-grave medical system, environmental statutes, the right of workers to bargain collectively and for the government to act as the ultimate insurer of worker safety should a collective bargaining work stoppage be necessary and any the other surcharges that puts our manufacturers on an equal footing with their manufacturers. Firms manufacturing more than 50% of their product or conducting more than 50% of their revenue generating business must be incorporated in the US. Such corporations must report all profits made abroad using the rules of our tax code to calculate profit and taxed at a margin that brings the corporate tax up to the equivalent tax paid by an equivalent corporate tax of earnings made in this country.
Should any country wishing to sell in our country impose a retaliatory tariff on our manufactured or agricultural goods that does not meet the standards set out in our tariff formula, their tariff formula on ALL of their imported goods and services would then automatically be doubled and would double again for each thirty days that they wish to impose the retaliatory tariff. This model roughly parallels the international trade form called “mercantilism” and was at turns more successful or less successful form of international trade existing before “country” lacked the impact that it does today. In a time of dire straits, it appears the only workable model to bring the essential manufacturing jobs back on-shore. “Most favored nation” status and all the other little bribes that undermine our middle class simply would not exist in the outlined formula.
It is a simple calculation of the costs incurred by manufacturers in this country imposed by the government and protected by tariff. I would love to continue our discussion of economics, but this response is already too long. Suffice it to say that anyone who would label our times as “post-Keynesian” is simply a neoliberal, “free market”, Chicago School huckster of Wizard of Oz flash-bang or is, even worse, a supply side believing, non-economist with equally bad economic theory holding forth as an economist. In either case, it provides no solution to our current dilemma which is a festering sore that will only turn gangrenous, resulting in the ultimate sacrifice or penalty, however you view this.
No one — NO ONE! — forced Obama to pivot to the deficit with 23% unemployment. That was HIS political decision. That can’t be blamed on previous Ds or Larry Summers. And no one — NO ONE! — is forcing him to double down on spending cuts now when EVERYONE knows the Rs won’t raise taxes.
Hunting for antecedents of austerity in the past is nonsense. No one is forcing this clown to STILL put SS and Medicare on the table.
NO Ds in the past called for austerity in today’s circumstances. It’s all bullshit designed to allow Obama to slip responsibility.
I don’t even want to get into how much of a misreading this is. Suffice to say that the article says pretty much the opposite of what you suggest.
Gore lost the same way Obama will lose because they fixed the vote in Florida. 3 recounts proved Gore won. Gore won the popular vote. They are doing the same thing again, but the sheeple will believe the lies.
That’s because they’re marketing the idea that we’re not in a recession anymore.
What the GOP wants and what they will get with Romney/Ryan is a reverse of the civil war with states allowed to do whatever and the federal government stripped down to military and tax collection. The taxes will go back to the states and be used to cut taxes for the wealthy and corporationz. The GOP never leaves money on the table. They will “disappear” all those the country-club set dislike. When Romney said they cared about the poor there was a sea of stony silence in the room. Romney is a vulture capitalist who knows how to strip the US and make a profit selling overseas as well as not paying taxes on his money. Ryan is a sociopath who lies to his Mother in public.
Gore lost regardless of Florida. For example, he lost Tennessee. Gore should have beat Bush soundly. He didn’t.
Meanwhile, just today Gore’s out there calling for an end of the Electoral College. He should just stick to talking about other important issues that he very much cares about.
Yes. Robin’s political thesis is the Repugnants outdid the Democrats in fiscal irresponsibility in order to force them to take on unpopular responsibility. A sort of politique du pire “responsibility”. This fits with Robin’s previous thesis that Conservatives adopt the methods of the revolutionary left to compete.
In this frame, the revolutionary left, which reacted against the responsible conservatives, is now, as Democratic Party, forced to react reactionarily.
The pre-collapse context that made “austerity” appealing to Democrats now gone and the Repugnants despised at the time of the collapse, the only justification for O’Bummer’s austerity this theory can advance is inertia.
Which is political science fappery.
I had great hopes for Robin.
Yes, but the trajectory of the past two generations is of asset stripping. Democrats have not put a stop to it and their limits to sending the taxes back to the states are military spending and ?
For gawd’s sake, the Democrats’ funding is coming from criminals.
The Kwapitalist Kwistian Klan will rise again.
Bill “Corporate” Clinton, his Corporate Republican cohorts, and the Banksters they represented laid the foundation for the current economic disaster with the enactment of the Financial Services Modernization Act and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act. Ratification of NAFTA completed the Trinity of Betrayal of the 99%. Byron Dorgan was one of the few Senators to recognize the danger of these financial laws and to vote against them.
Which Repubs were responsible tax collectors for the state? Reagan, George Bush Sr. The older generatinos were responsible. Not anymore this heinous new generation. As Paul Craig Roberts wrote:
Bush sr. raised taxes in the early 1990s. That would be impossible for a REpub to do today. For raising taxes, the REpubs punished Bush Sr.–at the cost of having a Dem president– by having him lose the election in 1992, and no REpub pres ever dared again to raise taxes.
Therefore, Obama wants to cut ss, Medicare, we should punish him by making sure Obama loses the election. Thereafter, Democratic presidents will not dare cut social security.
O is infected with Milton Friedman’s Chicago School disaster capitalism philosophy. What else would one expect from someone who requested Joe Lieberman as his mentor in the Senate and publicly praises Reagan?
A surplus would be justified if inflation were a problem or if there were a surplus in the current account. Otherwise not so much. I can’t think of another reason. Can you? Those two things will likely never happen again given the high unemploymnent numbers and the extent of imports. Then again, never say never.
Some inflation like oil prices and foods prices from things like drought are not the same things.
I have no idea where you are coming from.
I was responding to a statement in your post saying that spending less on the military was a “danger” of austerity spending. The military requires less money as a percentage now than it did during the Kennedy era because it fights differently, so there is no danger. That is not an “excuse” for anything. I don’t even know what you think I am supposedly trying to excuse.
I don;t know what your “goose gander” reference means, either. If it means that we are arbitrarily required to spend more money on the military than the military needs, you’ve lost me.
True dat!
I may be misreading what you said. Obama made a decision to move to austerity. I think it was premature and extreme and an unforced terrible mistake. I don’t know why he did it other than he didn’t understand. My guess is he thought he had to given the high deficit. He could, in fact, reverse course. But after all this time it could be a political mistake. That could be his calculation. I don’t know. Besides last I heard he still thinks a household is the same as the federal gov. Kinda stupid.
I never said things to which you seem to be responding.
I said only two very specific things in reply to your prior post. One was that Clinton had paved the way for Bush to run on restoring honor to the White House. I am not sure how anyone can disagree with that.
I also said that the Monica thing hurt other Democrats, even if Clinton remained popular. And I was not referring only to Gore.
If you disagree with my statement that Clinton’s Oval Office activities hurt the Party and other Democrats, maybe you missed people who say they changed Parties because of the Monica thing? Not simply did not vote for Clinton’s VP because of Monica–though that was true of some–but changed Parties entirely.
I agree that Gore ran a poor campaign, but that is a matter of opinion as to which reasonable people can agree or disagree. So are the other things you said about the election and I disagree with those. Neither of us can back up our opinions with facts, though.
Say, comrade, a technical question first. When someone in the private sector buys a bond, how does the sectoral balance account for that purchase?
Stop making excuses for the Disaster Capitalism-in-Chief, Barack Obama.
Wrong. Florida follows their own law for a recount of the state due to the close vote and Gore wins the Presidency. Those are the rules. Bush was “selected”, not elected. The same game is being played today. Voter registration in Florida down 95% for Democrats. Up 15% for Republicans. Get it or do you like scams?
The point is that the whole thing should never have come down to Florida. In a race against Bush Jr, Gore should have been able to sweep the map. The fact that Gore lost in his home state of Tennessee in 2000 (first time he ever lost a race in Tennessee) is a good example of how bad his campaign was. Everything Gore did in that 2000 campaign from beginning to end (choosing Leiberman and the creepy kiss at the Convention, for a couple of examples) was an over-reaction to Bill Clinton’s infidelity issues, which he stupidly thought was what was most important to Americans in 2000.
For the next 20 to 30 years, not much is going to change.
Why?
Given that the demographics will have a “certain” impact during this time frame, America’s “racial and ethnics” today, look to the “pundits” and realize that the “progressive” pundits will have to do far better, and starting with each pundit publishing a book addressing one law of the 192 laws that comprised the Great Society, and consequently, these 192 books will lay the ground work that these “racial and ethnics” will utilize to create the Great Society–Part Two. And if the “progressive” pundits of today, fail in this effort, tomorrow’s historians will write their ‘epitaph’ for having become a ‘camouflaged” pundit for conservativism.
And here in the Sonoran Desert, this challenge to progressive pundits is still not on the radar screen and this perceptive challenge is premised on a common sense application that embues a stellar volume of prescience. As such, a Yardstick predicated on each four-year election cycle relative to expansion or reduction.
And if not, Native Americans and Chicanos, won’t be “listening” or “reading” these pundits in the foreseeable future, and much to their obvious demise.
Jaango
Oh, plenty will change in the next 20-30 years. What the government is planning today will change tomorrow quite radically.