Protests and attacks continued at Western embassies across the Middle East and North Africa today, and at this point they have little relationship to the anti-Muslim film “The Innocence of Muslims.” A reporter for the Times of London asked protesters outside the US Embassy in Sanaa, Yemen, yesterday if they watched the clip of the film online, and to a man all of them said they hadn’t. The film is a pretext to stir up sentiments among a small but determined band of agitators. I’m not sure we can say too much about the sentiments of the populations of these Arab countries as a whole, but we can say that they contain at least an element of anti-Westernism.
Throughout the region, the US tightened security and governments engaged in running battles with their own people. In Egypt, security tightened as protests raged outside the US Embassy in Cairo for a fourth day. In the Sudan, the German and British Embassies were attacked and infiltrated. 5,000 protesters in Khartoum broke into the German Embassy and tore down the flag, replacing it with what Der Spiegel described as an “Islamist banner.” Eventually they set the embassy on fire. Reuters reports that protesters have “jumped over the wall” at the US Embassy in Sudan. With Friday being the traditional day of protest during the Arab uprising, an increase in the demonstrations should have been expected.
Meanwhile, we have more information about that attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, which killed four Americans, including the US Ambassador. One eyewitness says that armed Islamists stormed the consulate before any spontaneous protests occurred.
The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.
The men lobbed grenades into the compound, wounding the guard and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility’s main gate, shouting “God is great” and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said there had been no warning that an attack was imminent.
“Wouldn’t you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?” the guard said.
The guard, located by searching hospitals for people injured Tuesday night, said he was 27 years old but declined to give his name. He asked that the hospital where he is being treated not be identified for fear that militants would track him down and kill him. He said he was able to escape by telling one of the attackers that he was only a gardener at the compound. The attacker took him to the hospital, the guard said.
Adding to this is the fact that a second attack occurred at the supposedly secret safehouse to which the consulate personnel were led after the initial fighting. Libyan authorities have made arrests in the attack, but even they don’t sound entirely confident they have the right perpetrators. The group they blamed for the attack, Ansar al Sharia, claims that they had nothing to do with it, and that rogue members of their own group may have carried it out.




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America has been firing missiles at innocent people in the Middle East for years…and the people there are now mad at us?!?!?!? I’m so, so shocked.
And let’s not forget that, a month ago, England was considering violating another country’s embassy to get Julian Assange. If the West doesn’t consider embassies off-limits, why should anyone else?
Turns out “The Innocence of Muslims”, is a cobbled together 14 minute YouTube film trailer (no film actually exists).
It’s not likely that many of the people here criticizing the drone war have ever seen a drone strike or actually have read compiled reports of the evidence about them.
The Times of London reporter’s question is a red herring. And presumes a broader online audience than probably is in the streets. This reaction is not driven by the same forces that drove the Arab Spring. This is not a middle class Muslim protest. It’s closer to the response that you would get in Tupelo MS were you to air the movie “The Last Temptation of Christ” this week as opposed to the reaction over a decade ago. Few folks who protested then had seen the movie either but they “knew what was in it”. However, in the case of “Innocence of Moslems” what they have heard is more likely to be closer to the truth than what those Christian evangelical protesters of “The Last Temptation of Christ” heard. And moreover the motives of the amateur hit team from Media for Christ are much different from those of the writer of “The Last Temptation of Christ”, Nikos Kazantzakis.
It doesn’t matter. It is 14 minutes of offensive insults.
“Anti-westernism” is too convenient a term. People want self-determination, and Arabs are no exception. It’s going to take years to sort out. The USA is going to either (1) try to control events, earning more hatred or (2) withdraw to some extent and hope for the best. I’ve lived in Yemen, and I can tell you most people have nothing against America- it’s our foreign policy they don’t like.
What a ginormous mess!
How do they breathe with all that black smoke? Tough to breathe and protest at the same time? It’s really un-nerving to watch all the violence in that region.
Is there a concerted and honest effort being made to find out who is responsible for that video? I know that the US has acted selfishly and horrifically in that part of the world for years, decades, who know, so I’m not laying all the blame on the video.
By all means, let’s go and murder some innocent people because we’re all “offended” then.
WTF?
Whoops, got cut off. You know what I’m saying.
RE: Libya
So we now have a third independent group which was planning to use September 11 to have an action. So that means (1) the Media-for-Christ/Terry Jones action, (2) the reaction to the September posting of the video and its rumor mill, (3) a planned attack by Libyan Ansar al-Sharia likely in retaliation for one particular drone strike, and (4) today’s sermons at Friday prayers about the film throughout the Muslim countries.
At least, there will be nothing from Iran; no US embassy.
It works in the US. It even works for US foreign policy.
We kill for money, pure and simple. The “offended” part is merely pretense.
Responsibility for the video: All evidence points to the entrepreneurial “marketing” nonprofit Media for Christ, which is anti-Muslim, anti-Jewish (anti-Semitic?) and anti-Mormon. And was a coalition partner in the “Ground Zero Mosque” nonsense that shut down the use of federal courts to try prisoners from Guantanamo. In other words, allies of Pam Geller, Daniel Pipes, and David Horowitz.
Pretense to get the cannon-fodder.
It is just fine for the United States to go any where, any time and kill any person it desires. And don’t forget about collateral damage. After being “managed” by our foreign policy for years, these people have had enough. (I detest murder and violence in any situation)
Moral equivalence?
The British government has threatened to invoke a little used law to remove the embassy’s diplomatic status so that it can ship Assange to Sweden. The law was enacted in 1987 after a British police officer was shot outside a Libyan embassy. In doing so it would be violating the principles behind the 1961 Vienna Convention which deemed embassies as extra territorial areas so that diplomats could work undisturbed in foreign countries. Julian Assange, wanted on sexual assault charges, is no diplomat. And the government did not follow through.
Up to 125 armed Islamists stormed the consulate from all directions lobbed grenades into the compound shot the place up and killed the US Ambassador and 3 other people.
Just a little tit for tat I guess.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah, that’s sane.
Take the idea that they hate our foreign policy and not us. Now you say killing for money, in your evaluation, is less “WTF” than killing for offense. Do you think ferner’s would so dumb as to miss the connection between your attitude and US foreign policy?
Yeah. Can you really expect to be taken seriously?
Correct. It turns out the three fanatics who produced the “film” did so in order to get Muslims to volunteer for “Suicide by Cop” by rioting.
Guessing you are not watching the demonstrations.
Marines to protect U.S. embassy in Yemen. Target rich environment.
OK, the West should consider embassies off limits unless they’re in countries they’ve invaded. Heh?
” I can tell you most people have nothing against America- it’s our foreign policy they don’t like.”
With all due respect I’ve never understood this kind of statement. I don’t have anything against my next-door neighbor either…its his trained-to-kill pitbull which kills and eats one of my kids every once in a while I don’t like.
I don’t hold the murderous religious morons who’re rioting to a different standard than I do the murderous money-grubbing assholes who’re raping the globe. That’s all I’m saying.
Man, you must be saying WTF all day long.
But but but, such statements absolve all us peace loving citizens of any responsibility for the horrific acts of USG.
LOL. No doubt.
And the Muslims are falling for it.
There is strong anti-American sentiment in Muslim countries which considerably facilitates any effort to get local support for demonstrations and embassy raids.
According to a recent Pew global poll, only 15 percent of people in Muslim countries have a favorable view of the U.S. and it’s trending downward. Favorable ratings are 48% in Lebanon, Tunisia 45%, Egypt 19%, Turkey 15%, Jordan 12%, Pakistan 12%.
Regarding drone strikes, disapproval is:
Tunisia 72%, Turkey 81%, Egypt 89%, Jordan 85%.
It’s diplomacy that A-merkins are all to eager to take at face value. They don’t want to see the connection between their social fabric and their murderous overlords. Behind gossip, the ferner’s can’t believe how stupid A-merkins are for smugly repeating their pleasantries.
There is a film.
(CNN) — Some time in the summer, a small theater in Los Angeles screened a movie to which hardly anyone came. It was a clunky film filled with scenes in a desert and in tents. The characters were cartoonish; the dialogue gauche. . .
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/13/world/anti-islam-filmmaker/index.html
Yeah, “Muslims” are pretty stupid, next thing you know they will be fighting ten year wars in remote places.
It doesn’t sound like they hate Americans or their policies. They just hate OTHERS.
Sudanese police have used tear gas against protestors at the German embassy in Khartoum in an attempt to quell outrage over an anti-Islam film. Sudan’s police force fired tear gas on Friday in a bid to stop more than 5,000 demonstrators protesting against an anti-Islam film from storming the German and British embassies.
Thank you, David.
If a forest is tinder-dry from drought, it only takes a hot car engine to ignite it.
This administration and the previous one have seen to it that the Middle East drought persists, and that forest is tinder dry. The one intelligent thing Ronald Reagan did was he got the marines out of Lebanon quicksmart. It did not cause us to lose face. It did prevent a forest fire.
This administration has chosen guns over diplomacy. They should all be impeached. They have exposed elements of our diplomacy, our better natures, to hot car engines and outbreaks such as these, when it has been simply amazing and a credit to peaceful Muslims everywhere that this did not happen sooner, and we can only hope that when it is contained or restrained, our government will change its policies.
I imagine those volunteers go into a gray funk whenever there’s no current pretext, or when the last one got stale. Some people seem programmed to savor conflict, and go into withdrawal without it. I think we had a hand in that rearing.
This was reported in today’s “dead tree” paper.
By Lindsay Wise
McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — The mysterious movie that sparked furious protests at U.S. embassies across the Middle East this week might not even exist.
The film Innocence of Muslims appears to be little more than a hokey, badly dubbed YouTube clip promoted by a handful of fringe Christian fanatics bent on provoking a violent response from the Muslim world. They got their wish after the amateurish YouTube “trailer” went viral online and was aired by an Arabic satellite channel.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/09/13/4257521/anti-muslim-movie-may-be-just.html#storylink=cpy
Four people were arrested in their homes, which contributes to the lack of confidence that they don’t have the right perpetrators.
Better tune up your hearing — they hate the U.S. and also U.S. war-puppets like UK, France and Germany, and with good reason.
Wise isn’t. The movie exists. from yesterday’s State press conference:
You may be right, my single source doesn’t look like it holds up to multiple sources.
So, some provocative video is circulating but the “Feds” want no trace of connection to them. Because of irrational Muslim character. Uh huh.
Cui bono?
“Spontaneous” riots break out at American embassies in the weeks prior to an American election, making the incumbent look bad. (of course, the moronic challenger managed to make himself look worse, but who could have anticipated that?).
Could there possibly be any ME actors who would prefer a pliable Romney administration staffed by knuckle-dragging neo-cons?
You’d think we’d be more popular in the Middle East, after all we’ve done for the people there.
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A1T:
Who is more bigoted?
Do you really think it matters who the particular suit is in the Oval Office?
“You’d think we’d be more popular in the Middle East, after all we’ve done
forto the people there.”I know you weren’t serious but I fixed it anyhow.
…deliberately posted in Arabic just prior to 9/11. It’s important to ask who benefits from events over the last few days.
It’s more important to ask who caused all this anti-American feeling that dominates Muslim lands — 1.5 billion people.
Sudanese police? protestors? Germans?
I don’t know?
I have strong suspicions that this whole thing is ginned up. Maybe the CIA didn’t fire AQ after 911……
It’ sure a surprise for most Amerikans that the people over there are getting tired of being ripped off and murdered for their resources since we’re such a “GODLY” ( the right God) nation…..plus exceptional to boot.
Heck, maybe this will pacify the hawks/MIC to just attack the whole region and leave Iran alone. OR it could escalate to just nuking the whole area.
As a neighbor of mine said after we went into Iraq; he “had to give “W” credit for not turning the place into a sheet of glass” (this for a couple of buildings in Manhattan) and that “property would be cheap over there in 100 years”.
I wished him well and refused to engage his ignorance of the half life of radiation it would take to “turn the Middle East into a sheet of glass”
I find myself more and more enraged by religion and the ignorance it spawns, so, I turn to sarcasm…it’s either that or dye my hair blonde
What are you talking about? Permit for what? Link?
Religion is certainly a factor but murdered people and deformed babies trump it, in most people’s minds, especially those who live in the area.
I don’t know the details of who those 3 are affiliated with, but I assume it is a pro-Israel crowd.
Crossed Crocodiles wrote this about R2P over and in Libya:
And Obama is threatening Morsi:
Wow. (An ‘official at State tried to walk it back: What he meant by ‘not allies’ was…in the military alliance sense.) Wow. Prepositioning?
‘…an element of anti-Americanism’ Yeah, more than that.
Maybe State can offer the Egyptians Omar Suleiman again.
Ambassador Stevens was the main driver for arming the al Qaeda sympathizers in Benghazi. Payback (from somebody) is a bitch.
you must have forgotten, they hate you for your “freedoms”
Well, yeah…except that’s kinda obvious. IMVHO and speculating, the peeps who want to attack Iran are manipulating events in order to either cause a diversion while Israel attacks Iran or create an environment in which a US military response is required (and Iran is the target).
Who wants to hit Iran? Saudi Arabia and Israel.
A pro-Israel crowd that is anti-Jewish?
I go back a while, and I clearly recall that when President Johnson (that’s Lyndon, not Andrew) said something, one should believe the exact opposite. It never failed. I’ve seen no reason to change with different presidents.
“I can’t say” is more appropriate.
Is this some of your sarcasm or do 3000 dead mean nothing?
It’s from your link, comrade.
There has been talk of attacking Iran for five years at least. It won’t happen. Iran is too powerful; the U.S. only attacks pushovers. The talk is the diversion.
I’m glad you agree.
That’s why I ask, who benefits from the youtube video release? I’d rather follow the chain of events and draw conclusions from the outcomes than surmise motives based on the people behind the release. There is a lot of shadowy obsfucation when it comes to state sponsored secret policymaking.
You may be right about that, but its speculation all around. Speculate is all we can do since all of this has such a stench of false flagging and manipulation. Let’s not forget that we’re having elections in six weeks…
LOL; yes, but I just went over to a centrist website where a friend of mine still writes. He’s vainly arguing over these events, and hearing how ‘brave’ the ambassador was to be there. Oy.
Guess that site didn’t grok that the Wiki Cables pretty much put paid the notion that US diplomacy anything much more than Empire carrots and sticks, and that diplomatic cocktail parties are much more than selling weapons (especially the stuff funded by Congress that even the military doesn’t want.
Ludwig brought a brief bit of Steven’s bio to my thread yesterday.
Diplomacy. Whooosh.
Speaking of obfuscation:
Say, that Egyptian broadcaster, do you think Mubarak had a handle on them when Tahrir was uprising?
Since you have so much experience, do you see what change happened between reagan and bush?
I thought things changed a lot.
In terms of what’s important. (well, to me anyway, and I guess that’s a large part of discussions here.)
A map of Muslim protests around the world.
Did I mention experience? Merely exposure which leads to increased cynicism. As for leaders in general their importance is overblown, so I defer to Edward Abbey:
“No man is wise enough to be another man’s master. Each man’s as good as the next — if not a damn sight better.”
FBI delusional or yearning:
Coptic? Can we invade Iran if a Coptic church is attacked?
Clinton’s State Department is really good with adjectives like Syria’s attacks on terrorists being “horrific” and this film being “disgusting and reprehensible.” I’m waiting for “despicable.”
No seriously…we did a lot for the Shah, and Saddam Hussein too.
(Until Saddam pissed off our even better friends, the Kuwaitis.)
I’m sure I left out many other murderous dictators we’ve helped in the Middle East.
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Obama may need to blow something up before this is over. This COULD become a problem for him. Was recalling 83, when the Marines were killed in Beirut; we invaded Grenada–what–a week later?
Heh. Don’t have to go all the way to Egypt to see violence in response to speech. Just look over there at those kids in Oakland getting shot in the head or beat with a baton for showing up at an occupy event.
Hillary Clinton has no clothes. Sorry for the image.
Revealed: inside story of US envoy’s assassination
Ooops.
Hmm. Sounds familiar. Tehran 1979?
Oops again. Say, how can so many anti-Islam security experts be so deficient in understanding Muslims, hmmm?
That’s ok. The worst part of her’s already exposed.
The U.S. regularly kills people on the other side of the globe for doing much less than what Stevens did, including “suspects.” Probably Stevens would agree with being in that position, that payback was possible. Soldiers do, the ones that think about what they’re doing. So yes, considering that, Stevens was brave to be there.
Two other bars from the same Independent piece:
“[A]Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.”
Screw this up and it could look like Beirut in 83.
A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.
“There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa’ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.”
The Spanish have a saying: Cria cuervos, te sacan los ojos. Just as no conversation about Iran and nukes should begin without noting that Israel has ‘em, no conversation about contemporary terrorism should proceed for long without noting that we created Al Qaeda.
Courageous or passionate?
You forget the rule of leftie blogs: Everything that happens everywhere at all times is about POTUS election.
I once posted a series of photos (which I won’t repeat here) on another site of HRC wearing godawfully ugly orange pantsuits in various countries, with the caption that she looked like a CalTrans worker on the Hollywood Freeway, which got me erased and banned for a short while. No sense of humor at that State-friendly site. You might guess which one.
I know. I can’t wait for the latest FDL celebrity poll results. Will it be Justin Beber or Angelina Jolie? (Did I get that right?)
I’m a pop culture moron. I don’t know who either of those people are.
This is what happens when foreign policy is run on a for profit quarter to quarter shortsighted CEO mentality of the MIC.
Teehee. I took care of that little detail @65. Gotta do it…
Thanks for that. A-merkins, you ravens, your eyes have been removed.
I read a lot of military obits, and they read exactly the same. Usually about some 20-year-old kid that never had a chance. Sometimes they add: “But he’s in a better place now.” Yeah, the freakin’ grave, rotting away.
It’s the ones with the holes in their hearts that truly suffer, forever.
FYI, list of attacks on U.S. embassies. Don’t know why Tehran is missing, perhaps bc students are not terriss?
They attack U.S. embassies bc they hate us for our freedoms.
Was the pantsuit a Kos Orange or a vivid shade of Boehner? She was prolly trying to send a secret message through her wardrobe like Bill and his tie. Just sayin’
Back to yard work.
This is what happens when you make A-merkins the policemen of the world.
We do the “policing” for the Corporations not for the flag.
The bidness of A-merka is bidness.
OT, but does anyone have a reputable link about what’s happening with the evacuation of the University of Texas? I heard a blurb on the radio this morning about the evacuation, and then just saw a tweet linking to an article at infowars.com (NOT reputable) talking about bomb threat at nuclear reactor housed there.
http://www.infowars.com/nuclear-reactor-facility-evacuated-in-austin/
No.
BBC
The consulate’s walls were breached in just 15 minutes, guards were outgunned and overwhelmed and four US personnel were killed, including the Ambassador, J Christopher Stevens.
US embassies and consulates in areas of the world where they are deemed liable to attack are usually offered a formal security contract called a Worldwide Protective Services Agreement, known in the industry as a ‘Wips’.
The contract, or so-called tasking order, is between the US state department and any one of several major private military contractors such as DynCorp International and Aegis Defence Services.
Under this agreement, extensive security precautions are put in place, including low-profile armoured vehicles, run-flat tyres, sufficient weapons, ammunition and trained personnel, as well as a tried and tested command and control system.
But sources have told the BBC that on the advice of a US diplomatic regional security officer, the mission in Benghazi was not given the full contract despite lobbying by private contractors.
Instead, the US consulate was guarded externally by a force of local Libyan militia, many of whom reportedly put down their weapons and fled once the mission came under concerted attack. . . .the defenders were quickly outgunned by the sizable and determined attacking force that used heavy weapons including rocket-propelled grenades prompting investigators to consider whether Tuesday’s attack had in fact been planned in advance by a jihadist group.
Good for you!!!
Think of all the snark she is missing, though.
Touche’
OTOH, does any OTHER religion besides Islam refer to members of other religions as “infidels”?
I never hear that word in my church(es).
You are ALWAYS sooo on the mark.
You and I need to discuss my plans for a “Department of Homeland Celebrity”. I think you’d find my ideas very interesting.
Sorry to disagree; he lived in the same ‘untouchable bubble’ as the rest seem to. But as to yer former websites, I think I remember you from the Cafe, or its parent Dem gate-keeper site. ;o)
I *would*. Why has no one proposed that important department before?! Get O on the phone and create a cabinet level position to head up the agency!
Don: YOur contributions are alway so informative and timely.
When’s the last time we gave you a raise?????
As opposed to righty blogs, or our corporate media?
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Bigger ooops. Is this possibly just a second tier of confidence-rigging? First the video, then an incompetent SO?
No Christianists tend to prefer the term “heathen” to “infidel” but the general usage conveys pretty much the same idea and both terms are used to marginalize the “folks who do not believe int he exact same fashion as I do” crowds
RT reporting a protester killed by police in Cairo in front of US Embassy.
Stevens had the HP to overrule a regional SO, but I suspect he felt right at home in a thankful Benghazi and saw no need. After all he had strolled the streets with McCain in April 2011.
Slight intended.
Pamella Geller, Islamophobic entrepreneur:
WTF? O, you didn’t realize O’Bummer “has embraced the Muslim Brotherhood”?
So many “passionate” mercenaries.
Stevens was visiting Benghazi to inaugurate a cultural center — on 9/11!! But he had served there in that same building during the revolution so he felt safe. It was in a walled compound.
Fifty-eight minutes on yard work — I don’t like it either.
Pamella Geller reminds me of Donald Rumsfeld, who often spoke of the danger of a world-wide caliphate, so she’s learned from one of the best propagandists ever (Rummy).
Heh.
Don, MICain ain’t strolling.
So your theory is he didn’t see they need but your link says the attacks were calculated.
Hmmm.
Was Stevens the operative who regularly showed up in ME countries shortly before uprisings occurred?
Stevens looks at dead body of Gadaffi; Stevens dead.
But Stevens’ death an accident. Uh huh.
Designed to push a button and induce a violent reaction by those offended.
The corporate US govt./MIC has no problem with killing 3000 people or more to achieve its ends, as been readily apparent throughout our history, beginning with the Native Americans.
I rescind my comment from the other day when I credited you with the intelligence required to “connect the dots” or discern patterns. I was wrong.
And the US populace is surprised by the reaction of the inhabitants of nations where we forcibly removed strong secular leadership that kept these religious factions in check. We demonized and removed both Saddam and Gaddafi and introduced chaos.
Where did you get that? An accident?
Some possibilities:
* The US just got their guy installed to head the Libya government, straight from the US of A, and he’s (of course) not an Islamist. The Islamists are pissed, after all their effort, and so they do Stevens for betraying them.
* Stevens worked with the Islamists and AQ-allies, and Qatar, and he knows too much. So the PTB off him.
* Gaddifi remnants resent Stevens, so they kill him. (The Libyan ambassador has suggested this.)
There are three possible scenarios, and there are probably more. But was it an accident? I doubt it.
Again from your link, Don. Dont’cha read your references?
#1 Why don’t they do el-Magariaf?
#2 Somebody’s got to know too much.
#3 So he hired Libyans to protect the Embassy?
No, it very probably wasn’t an accident. But your link was sure it was. Better check you sources.
Now. Who do you think’s gonna want Stevens’ job?
Mark Levine (UC California Irvine), one of my favorite writers at AJE during the Egyptian revolution, has a piece up called ‘Blowback of the Ugliest Kind’, which starts like this, referencing a torqued, head slapping NYT article’s title:
[snip]
Perhaps we should send Bill Clinton’s ex-Ambassador to Morocco, Marc Ginsberg. I think he deserves the post.
That is exactly the type of headline you get when journalists rely on access to high level officials instead of investigation. Now where might a journalist get the idea that democracy complicates diplomacy? Hmmm…
This might come as a shock to you, but I don’t believe everything I read. If I did, I’d believe a lot of wrong stuff, like much of what you write.
The two minute hate doesn’t stand a chance against the century long jihad.
But comrade, watch where Levine roots the recursion of offense:
Yet, those duped Copts are returning the favor without realizing the puppet master they are serving?
And look here, another reference to our men behind the curtain, if you only think reflexively”
But look who the scapegoat is:
Ack! Ack ack ack.
Umm. No? Thank goodness for all the victims:
Ouch. Put that Dog on a leash.
Right, a lot of Muslims don’t get Iraq, with the killing and deformed babies, etc. They don’t think like our Defense Secretary Leon Panetta does:
SecDef Panetta, Baghdad, Jul 12, 2011:
It was…almost mind-numbingly backward, especially given what we now know about ‘diplomacy’ from the Wiki Cables. Kinda like: ‘Wind driven by sailboat’ thinking, ysd. No?
;o) Ta, dear. Now I’ll have to go read it; hadn’t had time to but scan before. I know zip about the Copts, but loved his opening and the other bit I found scanning. I have so little time online these days that my reading suffers.
Kinda went in search about the nasty new QE3 opinions, data, all that and a few other things…between chores.
Not to forget that when someone asked her about (jaysus, I apologixe for spacing the numbers) hundreds of thousands (millions?) killed, millions sent into Diaspora, so many starved…she reckoned it was worth it. So few asked: ‘Worth what?‘ Losing our moral souls, creating enemies who really do wish our destruction?
At least there are some inquiries into depleted uranium in Iraq (cold comfort, again), but in Libya, the PTB won’t even allow more than the initial gathering of evidence that said, ‘Yeppers; plenty of radioactivity in these building walls’. Fuck. We deserve what we get.