I’ve tried really hard to avoid this brouhaha over Conor Friedersdorf’s article on why he refuses to vote for Barack Obama. It’s probably generated far more discussion than it merited, since it amounted to an unsurprising statement of support for a libertarian candidate from a right-leaning civil libertarian. That liberals pounced on it as an example of Naderite perfidy, though the circumstances are quite different, is something that I found revealing of liberals, and this post can stand in for my thoughts there.
But I did take to Twitter to make a tangential argument that I think is worth teasing out. I said that, if the Presidential election actually mattered in more than 9 states in America, I would be able to get more worked up in this passionate arguments about whether one should support the candidate that most closely mirrors their beliefs or the most viable one that does so. Conor Friedersdorf’s vote, by the design of the federal government’s electoral system, already doesn’t matter as far as the Presidential election goes. He lives in California. No matter who he votes for, we know who will win the election here. His vote has already been disenfranchised by the world’s worst electoral system. And that’s true of around 80% of the population. Why are we fighting about Presidential choices amidst this travesty of American democracy?
One response I got to this was incredibly revealing and I thought spot-on. “But if we got rid of the electoral college elections would be way less fun to model,” said Patrick Maloney. And that’s absolutely right. There is no conception of talking about a Presidential race without talking about swing states, and voters in some corner of Ohio, and how local issues take on outsized significance. That this disenfranchises 80% of America doesn’t come into play.
The fact that there’s an election in swing states that looks nothing like the rest of the country, which has led to different responses on the Presidential question, should be alarming rather than a quirky sidelight. But the media wouldn’t know intuitively how to cover an election based on the national popular vote. Therefore they resist it.
And it’s more than that. The electoral college, with the fun map that you can click on to model different outcomes, with the polling experts slicing and dicing the polls, is a signpost of democracy. It’s a comfortable old sweater, a way that the public is inculcated with how to learn about what democracy is supposed to mean. In fact, it’s held up as the way you participate in democracy, even though there are dozens of other more powerful ways that have nothing to do with these quadrennial rituals.
That’s why, despite the fact that no actual work gets done at political conventions anymore, we will always have political conventions. We will always have the spectacle of people in funny-looking hats dancing, and top politicians making speeches, and always at the same time every four years. The same announcers even introduce the politicians when they come on stage. It’s a theatrical production. It’s meant to signal the coming of “campaign season.”
We have the first Presidential debate coming up on Wednesday. This is another signpost of democracy. Since 1988, the Presidential debates have been held on precisely the same set. There have been practically no changes to it. It has a blue background with some red trim, and an large eagle in the center holding a banner in its teeth. It’s comforting. It tells you that Important Things are Happening in Your Democracy, and that Attention Must Be Paid. That same set gets used in the inevitable Saturday Night Live parody. Just as there’s a set in the back room in Studio 8H in 30 Rockefeller Center, there’s some backdrop, and that eagle, in storage somewhere, which the Commission on Presidential Debates drags out every year to tell the public that this is how democracy works.
The Commission on Presidential Debates, by the way, is run by members of the Republican and Democratic parties, for the benefit of their candidates. Since 1988 there has been one debate with a third-party representative, and if they have their way that will never happen again. The Commission on Presidential Debates exists to create a set of choices around democracy in America that is inherently limiting. It’s probably stupid to pre-announce that your candidate will fire off scripted “zingers” in the debate, but I hope nobody believes that debates of this type are really an unscripted process. Practically everything about them is tightly circumscribed, right down to the set.
This is also how an Electoral College which makes 80% of the nation irrelevant functions in modern America. It exists so you can put red or blue lights on a big map on election night, and deliver in bite-sized chunks who will win. It also limits choice, but it tells a story about what purports to call itself democracy. People learn through pattern recognition. The recurrence of the same signposts every four years, in ritualistic, regularized fashion, teaches people that this is what democracy looks like. It’s not in any way true. Democracy is about what happens after the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. But that’s not the product the powers that be want to sell.
This all serves to channel political engagement toward this artificial set of constructs, rather than through the organizing that can actually make a difference.
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Excellent.
David, in 3+ years you’ve given us more or less a thousand reasons not to vote for Obama.
The whole debate thing is pathetic. SNL did a thing on it “what is your favorite color”… you get the idea. The panel consists of generally thoughtless punked out media speak-a-boos who are fed what to way – the likes of which http://twitter.com/AmberLyon had opposed on CNN party media. The debates are not worthy of AMERICA and should be dismissed for what they are… SHOW & TELL. After all, the debates did manage to get DUMYA elected twice.
Sham democracy and faux elections.
I’ve been left out all my life. Elections here consist of candidates makeing a stop over to collect cash. Because of the horrible partisan districting even my non federal votes mean nothing. About every thing is decided well in advance of elections. Maybe being left to atrophy for so many decades is why the democrats here cant find a candidate for state/national office with more charisma than a junior high math teacher. But why spend money here when they can blow tons on some obscure race in a state that less popultion than my graduating class.
Comrade, are you dissing Amerikan Exceptionalism? Better be careful on your way home tonight. I hear gitmo is still open.
Better yet don’t go home tonight and instead head straight for the Ecuadorian Embassy. :)
Multi National Corporations have no interest in direct democracy in our political system or our consumer choices and they are controlling both systems right now.
Like all of life, politics runs in cycles (I know! How profound. and you can quote me). We are hopefully (fingers crossed) maybe finally scraping the bottom of the barrel right about now, but I dunno… just when I think I’ve seen it all… well, ya know, some dumbf*ck comes out with ever new lows.
I think we can all agree that elections have mostly always been about dog ‘n pony shows, esp since the mid-20th century as information delivery sped up. But in my lifetime, it seemed as if the conventions, I dunno, *mattered* a bit more with somewhat “real planks” being hammered out amongst a variety of constituents & not just those with deep pockets.
I can also remember debates that had some meaning to them and were, gosh how amazing, actually informative about the candidate and his (mostly a male) viewpoints, etc.
I’ve been accused of expecting “sparkle ponies,” but that’s just ridiculous. I’m as reality-based as they come. I know that the bulk of campaigning is just speechifying and that all pols lie routinely.
That said, what’s the frickin’ point anymore?? Be done with it.
Very few citizens’ votes actually matter anymore, and it shows. I’m basically “yelled at” if I suggest voting third party & told how insanely immature & stupid I am. Why? Why does voting third party consist of “throwing your vote away” when, in fact, my stupid vote mostly doesn’t matter anyway? If voting third party in protest is about the best I can do to have some sort of “say,” then why shouldn’t I do that? And why does that constitute being ridiculous?
Questions to be pondered, imo, but that’s just me.
The 2008 election was one of the most phony things going, as was proven over and over again by Mr. Obama, as well as by John McCain and Sarah Palin.
This pathetically dispirited Kabuki Show now entitled “POTUS 2012 Election” is actually more revealing truthful. Almost no one gives a shit – as is evidenced by low voter morale, lack of signs, etc – bc why should we?? Our votes, if they’re even counted accurately, are essentially meaningless anyway… just as meaningless as what the stupid politicians say to us. A bunch of lies signifying nothing.
I’ll stop my rant now. bah humbug.
Thanks for the post and links to other articles. Insightful.
“The fact that there’s an election in swing states that looks nothing like the rest of the country, which has led to different responses on the Presidential question, should be alarming rather than a quirky sidelight.”
For those still looking at the electoral system for change, why not start with California?
If you think OWS changed the conversation, if California was perceived as becoming a swing state again (55 electoral votes), it would put more fear (if that’s possible) into the heart of the Democratic Party.
A strong showing by 3rd Party candidates in California wouldn’t be a bad starting point.
Forget states.
According to a comment made by Brian Williams on The Daily Show in recent weeks, the Presidential election comes down to all of twelve counties.
“That liberals pounced on it as an example of Naderite perfidy, though the circumstances are quite different, is something that I found revealing of liberals, and this post can stand in for my thoughts there.”
How are you defining “liberal?” I don’t think liberals are still flogging Nader or supporting Obama.
I think those are either the Democratic Party unconditional loyalists or the neoliberals.
I agree. I live in CA, and I am voting 3rd Party. Call me stupid, but that’s how I see it. I will not cast my ballot for either War Monger. No thanks.
I agree with this analysis. Tell your friends to watch the debate on wed. on Democracy now because they are going to pause and let the third party candidates answer the same questions that O and R get.
I live in Cali too. I’m not voting for any incumbents.
I’m debating voting yes on the tax hikes. Education needs the funds, but I keep thinking about the countless “bond measures” that I’ve voted for in the past 20 years and what happened to that money?
It’s not the funding, it’s the people handling the funds that’s the problem. Their ideology and priorities haven’t changed. There’s no guarantee that the money for “public” schools won’t be diverted to privatization. I’m almost certain of it.
Finally, sanity:
It’s the consultancy system of campaigns combined with the electoral college that rigs the choices. Nine states matter because the consultants that advise the campaigns decided to focus the bulk of their resources on 9 states. A Constitution Party voter matters in Virginia. But I can’t think of any other states where a third party vote might matter. Even if everyone who has a login at FDL were to vote for a single third-party candidate. Even if everyone who has participated in the third-party vote discussion voted for a single third-party candidate.
Bond measures are typically for capital expenditures like school building construction or repairs or acquisition of equipment. Those bonds require taxes to pay them off. The ability to increase school operating budgets depends on having additional funds from taxes because in the scheme of things the debt service (bond repayment) will take priority over budget expansion.
Excellent. I’m for not voting at all, but your way is the next best.
Thanks for pointing this out. Democracy Now deserves some kudos for this. Who are they having on? Stein? Alexander? Johnson? Others?
“Thanks for the post and links to other articles. Insightful.”
here is another enlightenment link… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN3IhEae68o
President Obama is a good man. He doesnt take shit from that wacko netanyahu.
Netanyahu is crazy, like dick nixon, a real sociopath, a lot like cap’n romney who has a deal with him – buried in his treasure in the caymans – for a real estate deal for a theme park, golf course and condos in jerusalem. only thing standing in their way is the rest of the world. but cap’n romney and crazy have a plan to attack iran without starting world war 3. and you’re included. so are your sons and daughters. you and yours get to fight and maybe die in his war, and certainly pay for his war, and probably lose your home and land in his war, and lose another 20 years of value building for his war, and if the 2 crazies win you and if you live and if you can afford the war then, you get a discount for 2 to new jerusalem. body guards and blast proof quarters available at extra cost.
I agree, but I’m probably reluctantly going to vote Yes on the Tax measure bc it brings the tax rate up for the mega-wealthy to a more reasonable level (more fair, imo).
I agree about mis-handling money, but that happens everywhere. Schools and social services need a boost, so I hope this helps.
I do get angry when the Legislators vote their staff high wage increases, as they’ve done a couple of times recently. No one argues that these people don’t work hard, but in this economic climate, it’s ridiculous to put further tax burden on CA citizens in order to raise already substantial salaries even higher.
That’s snark, right?
Bibi gives Obama his marching orders on a regular basis. You might want to reconsider how you got the info that Obama doesn’t do that.
I agree, though, that RMoney & Bibi go way back.
That said, I don’t see much difference. Ever heard of someone called Rahm Emanuel?????
“I agree, but I’m probably reluctantly going to vote Yes on the Tax measure bc it brings the tax rate up for the mega-wealthy to a more reasonable level (more fair, imo).”
you better believe it. the con job the thieving repubers are playing is that their win is your loss. thats not a game that any society should tolerate. draining the economy of cash by for profit life support enterprises is a sin. and it needs to stop yesterday.
There’s a formula for designating General Fund revenue to public schools that means the Prop. 30 money can’t go anywhere else, or at least a large percentage of it. Moreover, the current budget assumes passage of Prop. 30, and if it fails, triggers cuts to schools of at least $2 billion. So it really very demonstrably represents a choice on schools.
What Amy Goodman reported this morning was Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson but I also read on another post that Gary Johnson was invited. Very happy to see the contrast between Bullshit, Bain, and Brotherhood of Man.
Will it be streamed?
no. Pres Obama is not afraid to tell bibi to shove one up his ass. Obama will not be bullied. Rahm was diss-missed. get a clue. if you never operated in a high power environment, then you might not be able to key in between the lines. But you can do this, when either is engaged in talking about the other, listen more to the tone of the voice, the cadence, the ‘missing’ words – what they dont say, and especially how it relates in direction & distance to all other aspects about the personal relationship, not the policy relationship. policy vs personal. it does play.
Pres Obama NEVER defended crazy.
I’m not voting for ANY Democrat on the ticket, down to dogcatcher. Anybody who runs under the Obama banner effectively endorses Obama’s murderous policies, wants Obama’s Wall Street money. Fuck ‘em. Fuck ‘em all.
Hey Joe Common .Obama defends crazy everyday .He sold out America by bailing out the banksters without even placing contingencies requiring them to provide retail credit .They have perpetrated millions of mortgage frauds with Obama’s hands-off enablement .We got debt leveraged austerity beingmeted out by the same gangsters and their mascot ,Obama .He’ done every conceivable maneuver to destroy our civil liberties and employ a police-state .Don’t even get me started on this mad-dog psycho and his foreign policy .
By preying on the weakest personality on the thread ,I know you are a piece of dogshit Joe Common .You also should leave the Obama payroll and run for mayor . .Joe common,my ass .
Hey joe common aka hippie joe,you better get O to restrain his freedom -hating propensities and endorse med. weed ,cuz he’s about to lose Colorado .
Remember the 2000 election??? Hanging chads. Supreme court. Statistically a dead heat. Controversy, controversy, controversy…Sure filled up the ole TV….
Al Gore won(I didn’t vote for him, but he won). Al Gore WON. NO DOUBT whatsoever.
Al Gore won the popular vote. Easily, uncontroversially. Even accounting for chads, dead people, either democratic or republican dead, double voting, voter intimidation…. Al Gore won.
But the electoral college remains….because….
Now, for an interesting question, when either party has a 60 vote majority, (or why not a simple majority???) why don’t they get rid of the Senate’s super majority “cloture” rule…aka CLOT rule…