“I take responsibility,” Clinton said during a visit to Peru. “I’m in charge of the State Department’s 60,000-plus people all over the world, 275 posts. The president and the vice president wouldn’t be knowledgeable about specific decisions that are made by security professionals. They’re the ones who weigh all of the threats and the risks and the needs and make a considered decision.”
But she said an investigation now under way will ultimately determine what happened at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed on September 11.
“I take this very personally,” Clinton said. “So we’re going to get to the bottom of it, and then we’re going to do everything we can to work to prevent it from happening again, and then we’re going to work to bring whoever did this to us to justice.”
This is certainly a far cry from the responsibility taken by our last Secretary of State for poor decisions and intelligence failures, as TBogg notes. But it’s not good enough for the warhawk triplets, McCain, Graham and Ayotte (sorry Joe Lieberman, you’ve been replaced), who want the President to hold himself personally responsible because there’s an election in three weeks.
Blake Hounshell has a good wrap-up of this entire Benghazi business, making a series of good points. Libya was a backwater in terms of news value, despite supreme challenges and dangers in the post-revolution environment, until this attack, when suddenly it became the chief foreign policy concern of the Republican Party. Some sustained, non-electoral focus would be nice. In addition, the media made the connection between the attack and the anti-Islam video even before the Administration did. In fact, they continue to do so:
To Libyans who witnessed the assault and know the attackers, there is little doubt what occurred: a well-known group of local Islamist militants struck without any warning or protest, and they did it in retaliation for the video. That is what the fighters said at the time, speaking emotionally of their anger at the video without mentioning Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the terrorist strikes of 11 years earlier. And it is an explanation that tracks with their history as a local militant group determined to protect Libya from Western influence.
This doesn’t get the Administration off the hook for implying a protest at the site that somehow morphed into an attack; within a matter of hours it was clear there was no protest beforehand. But this looks to be the result of standard fog-of-war stuff, pushed along by a media narrative. The President called this a terror attack the day after the incident in a speech in the Rose Garden. If you pick and choose between enough statements by enough Administration officials, you can allege a cover-up. But that may not really be the issue.
Finally, Hounshell adds this:
The United States can’t turn its diplomatic installations into armed camps. U.S. diplomats are going to need to take risks from time to time, and many of them are fully prepared to so. That said, it seems inevitable that this tragedy is going to have precisely the effect the State Department fears: more restrictions on diplomats’ movements, more fortress-like facilities, and less interaction with the locals. American diplomacy will be the worse for it — and that will ultimately make us less safe.
This is absolutely true, and Clinton echoed it, saying that ambassadors cannot be hidden behind walls. Hopefully she won’t pull back the diplomatic detail too strongly. “Freedom from fear” used to be a rallying cry.
I’m not sure working on a Libyan commando force so the Libyan government can combat its own extremists is such a good idea, incidentally.
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I want to praise her, but this feels a little fascicle. If she responds in an open and well thought-out manner to this, I will believe and accept her word. As you stated, we used to be proud about our freedom in the face of adversity. Now, I weep for this nation.
Thank you for your coverage of this. Yours is the one voice I trust to filter out the crazy and bullshit.
That’s what I get for trying to use big words. I meant farcical.
Ahhh. DARN! The repubcons won’t be able to use that against Obama now and hold him personally responsible. The US is already fighting against investigation of the event and here Clinton is about to blow any future chance of running for President.
There is a blockbuster of a story going on we just can’t see it all.
I thought you were going for “fascile”, Gothrykke.
Though “farcical” does more “capture” the Kabuki of it.
What does it mean?
Hath fair damsel fallen on her sword that the King be absolved?
Should she, somehow, survive, what shall be the consequence, besides lionization and acclaim?
This one shall come, one imagines, to be held right up there with the truth of a certain person’s whacking of Cherry trees.
Will it result in the same reward by a grateful and adoring public?
Or, shall she be sent to bed with no milk and cookies?
Considering, as we might that the US insinuated itself in this place, much as the Supreme Court insinuated itself into the election of 2000. Which is to say, with the INTENT of determining the outcome of events and who should have power after those events …
That is merely my opinion, of course, but it smacks of empire building, NOT nation-building to me.
DW
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David, remember when I was trying to discuss the Mortgage Insurance biz during the foreclosure crisis? Well, Palast has the goods on them. Even though the home buyers were forced to buy that insurance, it paid the banks and the direct beneficiary’s were the big honchos. Still people were thrown out and no longer have a credit rating worth paper towels.
Absolutely! Her coach has been prepared and only the fastest Steeds shall pull it.
Easiest solution is to simply leave much of the middle east. If countries have embassies in Washington, why must we be present in those countries?
I realize that it’s nice to have our far flung embassies for the few Americans who live / travel to certain places, but why risk lives? I’ve been to a number of far flung countries. I view that as my own risk. I see no compelling reason for stations in many places.
It’s also nice to help people sort their papers for travel to America. But it seems to me that much of that could be done on the intertubes.
On top of all that, State has a reputation for being totally insular. It’s not as though our embassies are Peace Corps outposts where there is a great deal of interaction.
I say leave the hotspots and use technology to deal with paperwork… then fly someone into a country to deal with issues that require face-to-face time.
Granted, my suggestion is very thin. But my opinion is that we should end our presence in countries where we know there’s a significant risk of life.
Our State Department is no longer filled with Diplomatic types. It is brimming with ex-military and war types.
I don’t know about that.
The people may see this a Hillary being presidential and saying “The buck stops here”, and Obama and crazy uncle Joe hiding behind her skirt, er, pantsuit.
“The United States can’t turn its diplomatic installations into armed camps.”
Are you fucking kidding me??!! When I was in Uganda (june 2012), I went to the American Embassy (as an American) and asked to get in. Several security guard threatened me (and my US passport) with large caliber weapons. They said that I was not allowed in the embassy. Later I discovered they were “having a function” that would not permit people (including Americans) to enter the embassy.
My experience is that the US embassy core is the international fraternity for US business. USELESS for the little guy.
Are you saying she has more balls in her pantsuit than those two and the entire Pentagon? If so, I will let the attire issue ride.
You are right. Bidnez is foreign lands good. While a Libral is in the Presidential slot in the US bidnez in Amerka bad.
I hadn’t actually heard that anywhere. But considering that Obama “ended” the war in Iraq, then suddenly had 20,000 embassy officials in Baghdad… I kinda figured that State had added a new “skills requirement: comfortable with heavy weaponry” or some such thing.
Yep. They’re everywhere. In both contexts of government and the world.
That skills requirement branched down into the justice department too. They are all very proud of the cash cow of war.
Is Hillary saying the compound is now an official consulate when it wasn’t when it was attacked?
I was just going to get a link to EW’s place and her piece on that very issue. You are thinking some great thoughts there.
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hadn’t really heard all that, but not surprising to hear in the least bit. The piece by Jane where she exposed the administration’s hypocrisy made our situation very clear to me.
Kudos for “approved” unapproved leakers. Prison for “unapproved” unapproved leakers.
And tonight, Candy Crowley will perpetuate the myth that we have a meaningful choice.
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Here we go! Read and think about it. I bet you come up with some conclusions.
http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/10/11/someone-doesnt-want-the-sanaa-embassy-storming-investigated/
The only choice we have is to either pretend or occupy the polls/count, and choose our third party candidates that have been marginalized.
What I find extra disappointing this year is the pundits using the same language that is used on ESPN. Perhaps they’ve done it for years, but I noticed this time around.
It literally leaves me feeling as though I’m in El Colosseo watching the gladiators while Rome is burning.
Between Marcie and David I am getting a new mental condition called “informed depression” or “fact based paranoia”. Depending on how the vote on prop 64 in CO goes I may move there for the cure.
Glad that you linked to that post of EW’s, PP, as I was considering doing the same, and this one, as well:
http://www.emptywheel.net/2012/10/10/a-new-security-reality-challenges-our-ability-to-practice-diplomacy-in-dangerous-places/
DW
“Situational depression.” Very common these days. Probably gonna get worse.
At Green Party Watch they have film of Stein and Honkala getting arrested outside the debate at Hofstra. If she wins in Nov maybe the inauguration will be the first from County jail.
I had posted this at TBogg before reading here, then thought it belonged here. Won’t be liked either place, no doubt. Still, . . .
Hillary does happen to be Sec State. It’s a bad place to be at this point in time regardless of whether she’s really at fault or not. It’s toxic regardless of how one feels about Hillary.
So Hillary utters a mea culpa. I think that came too soon — it will be questioned motives wise. Then it will offer only two consequences without an escape hatch. Either Hillary was on top of events and aware of security issues but unfortunately tardy directing improvements, or she was unaware. Neither is anything short of a show stopper for her 2016. Any outcome casts Clinton as a figurehead and nothing more. It isn’t fair, of course, which makes not one whit of difference.
Suggestions that diplomatic sites can’t have (read, don’t deserve) improved, robust security aren’t going to wash. Yet now that it’s been uttered, anything that is actually changed going forward (in response to 9/11), will expose a perceived lie. It’s a lose-lose prospect. Of course an RPG can polevault over a defense and into any site. But what would be the liklihood of such an attack? — in Benghazi the risk was well known to be very high, arguably probable, and there had been prior incidents that way. At some point locating a facility there might have been better considered foolhardy, reckless, and not worth the risk. Or perhaps the “cardboard” building could have been better reinforced to withstand some level of weaponry or unfriendlies getting inside the compound.
Some level of protection would be assigned according to the risk, or an alternative site chosen, or none at all.
Has Clinton announced her resignation in response? Will she stay on past the end of Obama’s first term if he is re-elected?
There is no accountability for any of these big spuds. They might claim responsibility (even Reagan claimed “full responsibility” for the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing) and got no fallout for that. Hillary, by declaring responsibility, will deflect the fallout from Obummer. There will be no consequences for her this year or in 2016 (if she decides to run). Accountability is only for the little guys.
I think the whole think is a juggling act trying to cover up the fact they didn’t freaking care one way or the other about the situation, just that it gave them a black eye. If they had cared, things would be different right now. Now, it’s a slight against them personally, instead of those injured or dead. Always about them.