I know there’s a lot of outside pressure on Congress to reach a wide-reaching agreement in the lame duck session on taxes, federal spending and social insurance programs, one that will trade the expiring tax and spending measures for the long-awaited “balanced solution.” The truth is that nothing’s going to happen in the lame duck. That’s the meaning of Barack Obama’s pledge to veto anything in that lame duck that doesn’t allow tax cuts on the top marginal rates to expire. It doesn’t mean that January 1 represents the end of the discussion, however; it represents the beginning.
Basically, the Obama Administration (and this is all contingent on them winning the election) has decided to take the advice of a lot of folks on the left and use the leverage inherent in the way the fiscal slope operates. With no plan, all the Bush tax cuts expire, including the tax rates on the wealthy. This turns around completely the dynamic of the negotiation. Instead of trying to decouple the top marginal tax rates with the other ones, Democrats could offer a pure tax cut package to compensate for whatever they feel should have been extended. And Republicans will be in the position of rejecting a tax cut for a broad mass of the American people.
But that’s not all the White House wants to do. The sequester will also begin if there’s no agreement, with the cuts split between defense and discretionary programs, but programs for the poor like Medicaid, as well as Social Security and the bulk of Medicare (there’s a 2% across-the-board cut to reimbursement rates), held harmless. The payroll tax cut will expire (and save your breath, AARP, that ship has sailed). Extended unemployment insurance benefits will expire. The alternative minimum tax for the 2012 tax year will not be patched. Tax extenders for a variety of businesses will not be extended.
The Obama Administration looks at that prospect and sees a leverage opportunity.
I’ve called this the GOP’s dual-trigger nightmare. It’s bad for the economy, but it also effectively ends our deficits with a mix of tax increases and spending cuts more progressive than anything any Democrat has dared propose. Republicans absolutely can’t let it happen. But the only way they can stop it from happening is to make a deal.
The administration hopes this deal will include more than just deficit reduction. They also see it as a vehicle for infrastructure investment and tax reform. They think there’s some chance that parts of the American Jobs Act, like the hiring tax credits, could sneak through the door, too. There’s even talk of using it to address climate change, though everyone agrees that’s unlikely. Whatever ends up in the final deal, there’s little doubt that it will be a big deal, and it’s likely to come together fairly quickly in the first year. The White House — and the expiring tax and spending provisions — won’t give Republicans any other choice.
In a way, the Obama administration’s plan for a second term is much like their plan for the first term: Make a deal with Republicans. Get a big bipartisan solution to our problems. But the means are almost precisely the opposite. Where in the first term, the hope was that they could reach out, talk through the issues, and come to an agreement, the plan for the second is to push the Republican Party off the fiscal cliff, and then force them to reach out in order to get pulled back up.
I think it’s wrong to distrust the source here. This is the plan. The sweeteners to the grand bargain will be some infrastructure investment and maybe job creation tax credits.
But what this is really called is a budget. In other words, the Obama Administration will do nothing in the lame duck, nor will their allies in Congress, and then, they will propose a large mix of spending, tax and social insurance changes – i.e., a budget. The budget will attempt to make trade-offs that supplant the tax rates and spending cuts from the fiscal slope.
The question becomes why, if this is such an advantageous position for Democrats to find themselves in, is it necessary to loop in programs like Medicare, which was substantially altered by the Affordable Care Act in ways that we don’t know will work yet, and Social Security, which has nothing to do with the budget? The answer: because. The elites want a deal on these issues, and the Administration thinks they’ve figured out a way to secure that deal.
People can go home for the holidays, visit with family. After January 1 is when the real work on this will begin.




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Letting the Bush tax cuts expire and creating the Obama tax cuts from scratch is exactly what they should have done before the disastrous August deal with the Republicans.
It was mind blowing that they did not take this approach before. Then make the Republicans vote against tax cuts. I mean, this was a no brainer.
I also don’t buy the assertion that nothing will happen in the lame duck session. They might wait until Jan. 1 to start negotiating the Grand Bargain, but they will not be able to resist doing some damage in that lame duck session.
The source is Ezra, the official Pied Piper of the Obama Administration. Although Obama theoretically will have leverage against Republicans, that hasn’t stopped him from screwing progressives in the past. All it means is Obama and his corporate backers will have more options for getting the deal they want, and if Bernie Sanders isn’t on board with it, so what.
So, should we expect to see Harry Reid start making noises about just forgetting the whole lame duck session? That seems to be the next logical move.
I personally would feel a lot safer if Congress just took next year off.
I think it’d be a very good idea if we all make definitive plans to visit D.C. in January. There’s only one certain way to stop this inhuman and illogical ‘dance of the elite’; we have to go stand in their space and lean on them. If we don’t do that, it’ll be our fault too.
It only makes sense if you realize Reagan loving Obama is a closet Republican. President Lucy’s Football will return November 8th.
And I’m still of the opinion that starting the wednesday after the election everyone who cares about Medicare, medicaid and Social Security should call their elected Democratic officials often and write at least once a week to remind them that the President will not be facing reelection ever again, and that the Republicans are masters of getting the Dems to vote against their own interests. And their interests are to protect those three things – even against their LAME DUCK PRESIDENT. Get everything you can, but hold the line of those three items or know that you are slitting your own throat in your next election. Then mention that if the Democrats are sent packing there will be no lobbying jobs because Republicans aren’t going to listen to them…
IOW, make it absolutely clear that their future is dependent on actually supporting Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. That it is still the third rail of politics. And their party ‘leader’ doesn’t give a good crap about them so fell free to tell him to sit on that petard he is holding out to them and to twist.
You mean we are not going to get to be biting nails, sitting on the edge of our seats in mid December over this issue again?
Sheesh!
Whenever and whatever the deal is, it must resolve the debt ceiling issue as well. There is no point in negotiating a deal that leaves Conservatives the option of blowing it up two months later.
I agree. The issue now is the Obama administration which is unreliable.
Fatal error: The elites’ operatives will not be vacationing through the lame duck.
Whatever counter-pressure one can apply, for whatever good it might do in limiting the damage, needs to be kept up.
Whatever light can be thrown on these machinations needs to be maintained while the elites prep their puppets to stab us all in the back.
and that’s the TWOOPH!!!
So something like Glass Steagal being repealed in a lame duck session can’t happen this time because ????
You assume Obama wins.
I agree. This is a delay, not a reversal of their intent to make the trade: Your social programs, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security on the chopping block, in exchange for the symbol of mutuality, a few points more revenue from those too rich to feel it.
Don’t nobody be fooled. This is not reprieve, but a delay. After the election, you won’t have any pulling power, any influence to force them to commit to drop their intentions to continue to fully fund war and homeland security and to gut social programs, to tax the middle class and to reward corporations with lower taxes.
The Grand Bargain is not a Jobs program like the WPA, nor is it a universal health program. The Grand Bargain is not “for” anything for the people. It is a way to raise revenue and to shift the tax burden to the middle class. There is nothing in the Grand Bargain for people who have lost their jobs and their UI has run out. Do you see anything in there to restore the cuts to LIHEAP for low income folks so they can heat their homes this winter? Is there an increase in Food Stamps to make up those cuts they made?? If there is no pressure now for those things, there certainly won’t be any pressure in January.
The Grand Bargain, turning the US into a bargain basement society, is still on.
Grand Bargain = Austerity for Main Street and good times for the 1%. Yep nothing has changed for 0 and the other corp. puppets in congress.
Using plans for ‘reforming’ Social Security as a template for how our politicians plan to deal with perceived fiscal problems, a pattern analysis of their proposals shows their strategies are one and the same. Whether through raising revenues (Diamond-Orszag), or through 90 some per cent cuts in benefits (Bowles-Simpson) the end result is the same. Beneficiaries who are now children and their children will see their Social Security reduced. Though the Social Security program will be made solvent in all plans, no money will actually be added to the program to improve benefits for future retirees.
The analysis of the Bowles-Simpson plan at THIS LINK shows that eventually all of the benefits would be shrunk to a range between 9K and 15K. See figure #2. This disconnects final benefits from earning history, not totally, but 90% of the way. The changes to CPI plus raising the full retirement age to 69 and early retirement age to 64 make the rest of the big cuts.
Unless people put pressure on politicians to stop this, work to deliver these cuts begins after the election.
these guys are like a wolf pack, they keep the pressure on waiting for the moment of weakness from the prey. We are the prey and we need to keep the pressure on them and not get fooled into thinking the wolves are sleeping!
Obama can’t wait to led the pack to the final kill and claim his prize from the head wolf, Peter Peterson
But before Christmas so they can celebrate with their families in their cocoons of lavish wealth, a.k.a. their thirty pieces of silver.
The good people who did the impact analysis of the Bowles-Simpson cuts to Social Security, could not help themselves but to disclose an additional impact of the B-S plan on future retirees:
Think about this. These future Social Security recipients, living close to today’s poverty line, will be asked to pay more for health services under the Bowles Simpson plan. How will they do that on severely reduced Social Security benefits??
How about this: we elect Jill Stein and throw the negotiations in the trash bin.
Yes this is why I am not voting for Klobuchar and Obama in November. I refuse to be a mark in the con game.
Essentially they are turning Social Security into a voucher to support the Medicare premium. It is hard for me to see how this becomes much different from the Republican plan in the end.
She is the only one who is talking about issues of fairness and justice, economic and in terms of civil rights.
Which of the plans does not embody Republican principles of benefit cuts or extraction of revenues to pay off distant implicit debts which do not yet exist.? Which of the plans are not in functional terms, ‘Republican’?
Talking like someone who understands what a Democracy is. Stein 2012.
p.s. Greece has still not capitulated and it is months after the original drop dead date. If they can’t get the Greek people to cave how do they think austerity will work here. Don’t tread on me!
This post has two links in it for contacting legislators about this issue. The focus is on Democrat-Senators who won’t commit to no cuts, such as Durbin and Kerry who are seen as surrogates for Obama.
LINK HERE.
As likely noted elsewhere, Obama has to get to January 1 for any of his pronouncements to mean anything. That is in real question at the moment.
So, now, he can say all he wants, but it means nothing and no one cares.
He should have said this 2 years ago.
Heh.
I think you mean benefits cut to 90% of current, not 90 some per cent cuts.
Cutting to 10% of current benefits would be hard imagine.
You’re making a big assumption here. You’re assuming Obama wins the election. He’s still reeling from his mind bogglingly bad debate performance, which consisted of him telling everyone how he and Romney agree on almost everything.
Sure, Biden beat Ryan, and Obama was much more aggressive in his 2nd debate, but Romney is still leading in several polls.
I meant neither of those things. Please read the linked study.
If you are voting for either of the Rombama twins the only question to answer in the voting booth is who would you rather get fired by? Vote for third parties and let the brainwashed masses catch up for the next election. I’m hopeful mostly because it is clear the PTB’s plan to solve everything is doomed from the start. We have never had a sustained recovery by austerity.
Here they come. The Bipartisan Policy Center has just issued their proposal for a lame duck session Grand Bargain fiscal cliff avoidance pact:
Link Here
They demand a backstop of cuts 1) half from entitlement programs except SS. 2) Half from tax expenditures. The pact is for cuts to total 4 trillion dollars when all is done.
This comes on the heels of the CEO letter to pols reported yesterday, …to get busy cutting the deficit .
They are headed by Domenici and Rivlin. These are Peterson avatars.
David: Looks like we might be wrong to assume that Schumer would insist on criteria which would nix a bargain with the deficit hawks.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/10/18/sen-schumer-presidents-veto-threat-will-bring-grand-bargain-as-fiscal-cliff-nears/
An ugly bargain may be nearer than you think.
Your comment is excellent.
Sometimes you have to use the wayback machine to ascertain that you are being ‘faked out’ by the President’s spin:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/does-obama-still-think-his-grand.html
Full Speed Ahead for the Grand Bargain!
Durbin and Kerry are already salivating with Willy “The Money’s in SS” Clinton over cutting our earned benefits to please an 82-year-old victim of too much psychoanalysis (twice weekly for a stretch).
IIRC, the only time Obama sounds like a Democrat is when he’s close to election and is working to con the voters. I seem to recall that when he ran for president the first time, he found it almost impossible to actually say he was a –OMG, the shame!– Democrat!!. Finally, at the DNC nominating convention he made some concessions to using the word and to throwing some crumbs to the base, the Dem voters. He even praised some real Democratic programs and principles…but it didn’t seem to stick once he was elected.
I have no faith whatsoever that he will not do exactly what he’s dreamed of doing: Out “transforming” St Ronnie. And he’s told us as much. Forewarned. But so many voters just can’t believe he would do such things….
We are so screwed, and we’re going to pay for this president’s screw job for decades and decades.
When he’s done, the Democratic Party will be in a position similar to the current Lib Dems in Britain. Clegg has sold them out, and it will never be a viable party again. And just like the Lib Dem backbenchers, DC Dems will go right along with Obama and end up going off a real political cliff, not the fake fiscal cliff.
Let your Dem office holders, Dem state and county chairs know that if Obama does his crapping on SocSec and Medicare that you will never vote ever again for any Democrat. EVER.
Freeze a lot of ice cubers and make and ice cube ice floes? Float their sick and uncared for selves out to drown and save burial costs….
One of the reasons for not sharing any of the productivity gains is to create a feudal system where the serfs dare not displease their overlords.
Ensuring that real buying power declines relative to pre-Reagan years is one way to enslave us and make us too fearful to revolt.
Screwed we are so.
Obama has said he will not “slash” SocSec, but he will surely slice and dice it.
Seniors will not be able to afford cat food. And they’ll soon be too frail to dumpster dive.
Hard times.