My understanding of the word “debate” is that it refers to a situation where opposing individuals who disagreed with one another took up contrary positions and argued their side against the other. So maybe the better phrase for what happened last night would be something like “mutual admiration society.” But amid lines like “I agree with the President” and “thank you for agreeing with me,” with a few zingers splashed in to preserve the illusion of any level of difference between the two Presidential candidates on foreign policy issues, there was a bit of news, probably only noticed by Brian Beutler and myself.
It came during the run that would later launch a thousand memes, which are quickly becoming my least-favorite part of modern politics (Hey, look, I found a picture and placed white lettering on it! I’m politically active!). But the key phrase comes before President Obama taught Mitt Romney about how technology reduced the need for a larger head count of ships in the modern Navy. Obama originally responded to the defense sequester, the mandatory $492 billion in cuts to the military budget (alongside a similar cut to the discretionary budget) that will trigger in January if Congress fails to act. Here’s how the President responded.
First of all, the sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed. It will not happen.
OK, “it will not happen” is new. And this comes on the heels of the White House digging in and saying that the President would sign nothing related to the fiscal cliff unless the top two marginal tax rates increase back to Clinton-era levels. That would contradict the sureness of “it will not happen.”
The President has never embraced the sequester, particularly on the defense side. When he talks about the defense budget, and how Mitt Romney wants to increase it by $2 trillion (and this is about the only substantial point of difference between the candidates, they have the same foreign policy but Mitt Romney just wants to spend $2 trillion more on it), Obama says that from a baseline that does not include the sequester. He talks about $450 billion in “cuts” – last night he acknowledged that this would merely be reductions in the rate of growth of the military budget – without taking into account the $492 billion in sequester cuts. As far as Obama is concerned, the sequester doesn’t exist.
The problem is they do exist. I’m sure the President knows something I don’t, but you cannot confidently predict that the sequester will not happen and also threaten that it will if Republicans don’t agree to tax increases at the high end.
The easiest way to avert the sequester is to do what Nancy Pelosi has prescribed – take the revenue from the expiration of the Bush tax cuts over $250,000 and apply it to cover the sequester. This would almost do the trick, within about $150 billion over the ten-year period. But presumably Republicans would have something to say about that.
Anyway, this is something to file away, as I’m sure Republicans will, when they say that the President promised the sequester would not happen, and then it did.
UPDATE: Ben White of Politico:
A person close to the matter said Obama was not making any new policy and that the White House has never supported allowing the sequester to go into effect. This person told MM the president was simply trying to push back against Romney’s suggestion that the sequester spending cuts, especially on military spending, were designed and supported by the president.
More posturing than anything. But what’s the plan to replace the sequester?
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I believe Obama when he says the Sequester Cuts will never happen. That’s because Obama knows he will make the GOP an offer they won’t refuse. Obama is an expert at this and he’ll include anything the Republicans want in the deal. Anything at all. The Grand Bargain didn’t happen last time only because the Tea Partiers said no to the tax increase fig leaf. Now Obama doesn’t have to care about fig leaves. After the election, Obama’s unadulterated neoliberal self can be revealed. Obama Unleashed.
My guess is: cuts to social insurance programs served up in the lame duck session, along with a few token increases in taxes that will be reversed as soon as the lobbyists get to work next year.
That’s the plan. Watch Obama hand the Republicans the deed to the farm without a fight.
Let’s all sing it, we all know the lyrics. “He did it before and he will do it again, and he will do it again.”
Many of the ads here in the DC area (Virginia! Swing state! Swing state!) are about job loss due to sequester, particularly the Kaine/Allen ads. So, unsurprising.
In NM, same script, different talking heads. Heather Wilson and her “people” (Citizen’s United) are promoting 20,000 jobs lost. I don’t think “sequester” is used, too big a word.
My initial reaction was close to yours: he has already cut a secret deal with the Republicans, which is a very sweet one for the Republicans, or they would not accept it. Like, oh, I don’t know, the Obama McConnell tax cut deal where he traded a firm campaign promise for one single unemployment extension.
On the bright side, he got to run on the same promise again in 2012: No more tax cuts for those earning over $250K.
20,000 jobs lost must just be for your area.
Insane that apart from Todd Akin we get ZERO about ANY other election from ANY news source.
Geeez, it is hard to watch this crap day after day. Yes, he prolly cooked up a deal with the Rs to extend the tax cuts or some such shit. But in the end we simply cannot have any spending cuts now or we will have another recession. Are there no adults running the government? Must they all hide behind some pretense? Next up: The debt limit and more crap (but only if O wins.)
My reading of the plan to replace the sequester is to wait until January. That is let the Bush tax cuts expire and the trigger on the sequester fire. And then go to the new Congress. That puts a lot of hope in a changed Congress after the election.
The thing is, there are no material consequences from the sequester that the President cannot manage in the short term. He can even write it into the budget he presents to Congress. It’s not like he on January has to set aside $500 billion each from defense and discretionary spending. Second, he has put out his sequester plan, which is essentially a 7%-8% cut to non-personnel defense spending and a similar cut across the board to discretionary spending. He can start in January operating the government as if those will continue. Agencies can announce cuts in services and personnel to occur at some future point in the year. That sort of detail will put immeasurable constituent pressure back on the Congress on stuff that matters to them.
To my mind, there’s a lame duck session only if the Congress looks worse for Democrats in 2013.
The Green New Deal gives all the laid off MIC workers better pay and benefits and jobs that help our security more directly because we become foreign oil free. Stimulus is the only proven way to go.
When has Obama ever cared about keeping his word about anything? He will tell the clueless voters whatever they want to hear and he will do whatever his masters on Wall Street tell him to do.
I didn’t watch the debate, but I got some excellent analysis of it on the radio. It was reported that Barack Obama interrupted Mitt Romney like 38 times while Romney only interrupted Obama something like 23 times. I think this interruption disparity between the two candidates could just throw big O over the top.
Good on you, David!
“No more bullshit!” rules!
Or, to put it another way, upon re-election, Obama is going to put on his comfortable shoes and:
Give us a public option…
Protect our coastlines…
Ensure that the repubs don’t gut SS…
Walk those union picket lines…
Have some crooked financiers eating off of metal trays…
and so forth and so on…
He’s going to do this with the big conressional majorites he’ll go back in with, and because he just loves kicking John Boehner’s ass…just like he did for his first four years.
If Obama wins, the lame duck won’t be in congress; he’ll be in the Oval Office.
If Obama was an animal other than human, he’d be a pander bear.
(Please forgive me for this remark. I couldn’t help myself.)
Actually, it was noticed within minutes by one of the blonde women at Fox News. Don’t know her name – they all look the same.