This brief set of calculations from the Wall Street Journal’s Ellen Schultz shows simply how much of a raw deal American workers have been getting from defined-contribution retirement plans. It is impossible for them to generate the rate of return of a defined benefit plan, just completely impossible. Schultz shows this in the context of Social Security:
Despite widespread gloom over the health of the system, it will be still be able to pay at least 70% of benefits in coming decades, even if no action is taken.
That means you need to take the benefits into account when estimating your retirement income, how much you’ll need to save and how to allocate your investments to achieve your goals.
A 50-year-old man, for example, might have accrued a Social Security benefit worth $1,750 a month at full retirement age. Assuming annual cost-of-living adjustments of 2% a year and a life expectancy of 90, the present value of his Social Security benefits would be $588,551 if he starts taking them at age 62, and $802,039 if he begins at 70, says William Meyer, founder of Social Security Solutions, a Leawood, Kan., financial-planning firm.
To generate the same amount of income they would be receiving from Social Security taken at age 70, the individual would have to pay $436,517 today into an immediate annuity, says Mr. Meyer.
This says more about the futility of 401(k)-style plans than the adequacy of Social Security as a social insurance program. Social Security doesn’t provide the best benefit in the world. But the universality of the program, the lifetime of payments and the simple reality of defined benefit retirement programs make it a far better deal for workers than providing a sum of money to play with in the stock market. And this is the program you get when the payroll tax is capped at the first $110,000 or so of income; raising the tax cap and plugging that money into not only the long-term funding situation but increasing benefits would make this even more stark.
Most people have next to no retirement savings on their own. They rely on Social Security, and you can argue how they would manage retirement without the safety net program. But you cannot argue that they could get a better, safer return on investment. And it’s affordable to the government simply by changing the dynamic that Bill Gates does not pay into the system at the same rate as a guy earning $110,000 a year. Increasing inequality is more responsible for the long-run funding gap in Social Security than virtually any other event, including the baby boomers retiring. 93% of all compensation gains in the recovery from the Great Recession has accrued to the very top. Practically none of that money flows into the Social Security trust fund. Fix that, and you fix the problem.
I was glad to see AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka take a hard line on this today.
What is the grand bargain? It boils down to lower tax rates for rich people — paid for by benefit cuts for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. These are precisely the issues that are being debated so vigorously in the campaign, and voters do not want anything to do with such a deal [...]
When I hear people say we need to cut Social Security benefits, I wonder whether they know that millions of people lost their retirement savings in the Great Recession and that traditional pensions are increasingly hard to come by. Do the benefit cutters think seniors are sitting around wondering how to spend their lavish retirement benefits — now averaging the princely sum of $14,500 per year? Do they think near-seniors are suddenly realizing that their savings and pensions are much more secure than they had ever imagined possible? Are the people who want to raise the retirement age aware that life expectancy for Americans who lack a high school diploma is actually declining? Do they understand that raising the retirement age is a benefit cut, no matter what age you retire?
No wonder voters aren’t interested in such a raw deal.
Social Security Card — Image by © Royalty-Free/Corbis





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Perhaps Krugman will notice this spot-on post and give you AND “the voters” a shout-out? (Another, and very well-deserved, in your case, of course.)
Keep on keepin’ on … DDay, it is thoroughly appreciated.
DW
Great post!
It’s about time, is all I can say. I apologize in advance if I am jumping to conclusions, but it strikes me that this is the first time the actual president of the AFL-CIO has made such a strong defense of Social Security. I don’t mean lobbying against cuts or even working on catfood commissions to stop recommendations for cuts (like Damon Silver did so well). I mean, as Dday describes it, taking a “hard line” in defense of Social Security.
Next Step: increase benefits by CPI+2% every year.
Social Security is not only a pension plan. It’s full name is Old Age, Survivors, Disability Insurance.
It insures widows and orphans and those who become disabled, as well providing workers with a minimum retirement income.
Marry and have kids, then die or get disabled at age 28. Then compare OASDI with a 401(k) and get back to me.
Call me when Trumka presses Obama, or any Democrat, on protecting what’s left of the social safety net or, god forbid, strengthening it.
Trumka is the Grand High Lama of the Veal Pen, outranking only TBogg.
Today the AFL-CIO. Tomorrow AARP. We’re saved.
The only parts I can see in her write up which jump out to be disagreed with are these:
Raising the cap to restore capturing of 90% of incomes for payroll taxes is fine. But, instituting the chained CPI is a .3% cut per year which compounds to about 1% every three years, so continuing to compound over the recipient’s retirement until they die. Dean Baker and CEPR has written about how this is a stealth cut which the Cut-O-crats in the White House refuse to acknowledge as a cut. The other trick they use is to say that it is not a cut because they fold the savings created by cutting through a CPI, back into the Trust fund, thereby enhancing or extending SS funds. Either way it is still a cut to recipients. This is from StrengthenSocialSecurity on proposed COLA cuts.
Every year that retirement age is delayed or raised is about a 7% cut in benefits. In 1983, SS retirement age was raised two years from 65 to 67 which led to an almost 14% cut in benefits. It is unfair to raise the age of retirement another two years; it simply places retirement out of reach of those who do not live as long as wealthier, healthier recipients. It is more like outright theft than “raising the age of eligibility”.
Technically, it’s a cut to an increase. Instead of getting 5% more SS next year, you’ll only get 4.97% more, but you’ll still get more even with the “cut”.
For those who think raising the tax cap is a good idea.
The payroll tax cap remained $3000 from 1937 to 1951. The reason they raised it? Low-wage earners and high-wage earners were getting the same size benefit checks and the well-off didn’t think that was fair.
Raising the cap allows the rich to maintain their paycheck superiority into and throughout their retirement.
Yup, Social Security – great system.
The New Dealers put it in place.
The neolibs want to dick it over.
Ain’t your granddad’s Democratic Party.
It was great to hear Trumka say that. Maybe at long last Unions and the left see eye to eye. ( I grew up in the McGovern era, no love lost there.) SS never needs to be cut, damn it. NEVER. We are not “running out of money” no matter what the assholes tell us. If you really must do it, then raise the cap, but understand before you do it, it is NOT necessary for the government to pay out the first nickel, ever.
We have got to get beyond the lies and myths these “leaders” keep on telling us.
No it is not. the DLC saw to that.
Seriously, I think that we are talking about different things.
Possibly. But as far as I know chained CPI has only one meaning and that has to do with cost of living INCREASES.
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/20/138555779/whats-a-chained-cpi
As I said, you still get your increase, but a slight “cut” to that increase.
That’s one way to do it. Fortunately there’s other ways to do it. Invest 12.4% of your income over the course of your working life and compound the interest. A person making an average salary ($50,000) and saving his “payroll tax money” would end up with around $445,406.80 in 45 years at 2 1/2% interest.
Most people wouldn’t do this, but it’s not like you HAVE to be rich to fund your retirement.
Finally Schakowsky comes out and calls Simpson-Bowles a total sham:
article is HERE.
She lets us down on the cuts to Social Security. She fails to explain the progressive indexing cuts which eventually will constrain benefits to all within a very narrow range of 9K to 15k as described by the Center On Budget and Policy Priorites HERE.
Go to Figure 2 to see those narrow eventual benefit ranges I mentioned. Thanks.
Thanks. I think you are right that we are talking about the same topic and your quotes do refer to the topic. But the Strengthen Social Security folks play out the compounding effect of a chained CPI which your quotee does not do.
CHECK out the last graph on this brochure. There are three lines. The one on top goes at about 30 degrees upward and represents a CPI-E cost of living adjustment which would keep pace with inflation impacts on the elderly including the rising costs of healthcare. The middle line which neither rises nor falls is the current CPI which keeps pace with the current measure of inflation. The bottom falling line on the graph represents the chained CPI which holds the value of any SS benefit to a lower value as inflation progresses, effecting a benefit cut, slowly accruing in negative value over time.
What is the grand bargain? It boils down to lower tax rates for rich people — paid for by benefit cuts for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. These are precisely the issues that are being debated so vigorously in the campaign, and voters do not want anything to do with such a deal [...]
Trumka really did put it succinctly. The truth is that there isn’t a discussion to meaningfully address the income inequality except to suggest that the middle class and the poor need to tighten their belts. Instead of a discussion that centers around putting the cap at twice it’s level to cover future shortfalls and targeting the Romneys, Kochs and Waltons of the world, we’re having a discussion suggesting that it is the people at the bottom who are expecting too much. It’s a ridiculous assertion when you look at income inequality in this country.
Cool.
And I agree about the compounding. The thing is most people don’t reach 95, so projecting 30 years is kind of misleading. Also, if you did reach 95, you would have already pulled out way more than you ever contributed, double or triple, don’t have the numbers handy. Which is why I don’t think a 0.3% reduction in increase to save the program is worth the hype.
it’s all about the jackpot of fees when privatization kicks in. That’s the driving force w/Pete DickHead Peterson leading the charge.
The financial services industry takes about 1/2 of the investment returns of an average 401K through a well hidden fee structure, taking cuts of the investments at nearly every level, which is the primary reason 401k will never beat a defined benefit program, with a low fee structure.
Dayden is also correct that INCOME INEQUALITY, besides destroying our economy, is also the reason SS needs modification. The last fix in the 1980′s calculated income increases for workers based on historical trends, Saint Ronnie must have been laughing up his sleeve during those negotiations. Solution, tax income and cap gains above 250K to offset the income distribution miscalculation.
The obvious solution to the jobs crisis is lowering the entry age for both SS and Medicare. Free up the jobs for the kids.
Free tip to anybody who is disabled but having trouble getting SS benefits: MOVE to a BLUE STATE. The same judges who determine if you’re disabled or not, come from the local population. The decision the judges make is almost always completely arbitrary, based primarily on their political views. (my last three years of work were at a SS disability appeals office)
The other element to consider about individual retirement plans vs SS is that in order to exact the maximum benefit from an individual plan you would have to dip into the principal at a rate which presumes you know exactly how long you will live. Good luck with that. SS is definitely the best way to go. If wealthier individuals can supplement their retirement income, fine, but SS should remain the strong social compact that it is. The income cap on contributions should be removed completely.
People, I beg you, the time to be screaming is NOW.
They are coming for it soon.
And they are going to get it if this country doesn’t raise hell NOW.
Fortunately for the Persons of Extraordinary Seriousness, what voters are or aren’t interested in is irrelevant.
And Trumka, yeah, well, he says many good things. That and 3 bucks will buy me coffee. I love this quote from an article in The Hill (via Atkins @ Digby):
Gosh, no, really?
Im a bit confused by Alan1tx’s statement “A person making an average salary ($50,000)”. The median income for someone in the United States is about $25,000 per year not $50,000 per year. The 45 year timeline of savings for the life of the worker would be much less (half maybe) than $ 445,406.80 compounded at 2.5 % anually (I have not done the calculations).
Regardless of all of this, has anyone heard of the “Northwest Plan” from the folks over at AngryBear. “http://www.angrybearblog.com/2009/11/bruce-webb-dale-coberly-arne-larson-and.html”. The modified Northwest Plan raises the payroll tax gradually over twenty years and would cost the average worker an additional 20 cents per week per year over a twenty year period to a maximum of four dollars per week on the twentieth year. This is the best proposal that I have found to eliminate the Social Security shortfall over the 75 year (long term) planning horizon. The Northwest Plan maintains benefits without raising the income wage withholding limit (something the one percenters loudly oppose).
I’m just sayin’…
Ditto that Eric. Trucks is all talk.
Yeah, too bad he is endorsing Obama, the grand bargain wizard par excellence – nothing like talking out of both sides of your mouth ,,,