Feels so great to be part of possibly the dumbest electorate in the history of the US.

A person running for President lied to the electorate?

astonishing.

The only surprising thing about Romney and Ryan is how clumsy they are. The two of them, and their team, are oafs.

It’s a testament to the lameness of Obama’s record as President, that they are even remotely close.

Sooo. . .

What or who is Romney’s source for that calumny?

There’s some more on Romney’s distortions and machinations, and I won’t buy a used Jeep from him.

From David Kiley, AOL Autos:

“. . .The assertion by the Romney ad that the government “sold Chrysler to the Italians,” is entirely true. The important context left out is that Italian automaker Fiat was the only company that stepped up to make an offer for Chrysler, which badly needed another car company with which to partner. Fiat’s intervention has kept the company in one piece, saved Chrysler from dissolution, increased the quality ratings of the company’s products, raised its market share and profit, and resulted in a huge recovery of jobs in Michigan and Ohio.

“. . .The assertion of the Romney ad that Chrysler may build Jeeps in China is entirely true. But those Jeeps that would be built in China would be for Chinese consumers, not buyers in the U.S. It is not an out-sourcing of jobs. Every car company that wishes to sell vehicles in China must build them in China in a joint venture with a Chinese automaker. There is no plan or idea for the company to build Jeeps in China that would be exported back to the U.S. Chrysler maintains a huge manufacturing plant in Toledo, Ohio to build Jeeps, and Fiat has been investing in that facility and growing the employment there. . .”

http://autos.aol.com/article/mitt-romney-auto-bailout-ad/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl11%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D227619

It’s remarkable Romney tried this. Halloween is almost upon us.

The union should be pro-active and immediately send a mailer to it’s members debunking this and making it clear where the lies are coming from and why.

It’s a testament to the lameness of Obama’s record as President, that they are even remotely close.

Par for the course. Obama and the Democrats have been bent on saving the Republicans from themselves since January 20, 2009. Realistically speaking, if the Dems had behaved even moderately like liberals, the Republicans would now be nothing more than a few handfuls of teabaggers and dittoheads.

Too bad Mitt’s wearing temple garments because boy is he overdue for an airplane wedgie.

Raise your hand or click if you never heard of Joe Isuzu.

China says: “Thank you, U.S. taxpayers.”

from USAID:
USAID’s Regional Development Mission for Asia (RDMA), in Bangkok, supports programs in China across several sectors.

USAID is helping China promote clean energy and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. It is working with China to improve environmental law and environmental governance. Activities also will strengthen environmental due diligence among national agencies and the private sector and reduce China’s environmental footprint.

USAID assists China’s efforts to develop a legal system for fair, participatory and transparent governance; as well as its efforts to introduce reforms within the justice system.
http://www.usaid.gov/where-we-work/asia/china

you know, i manufacture a critical automobile component.

and all those entities manufacturing a similar item have all established manufacturing facilities in china.

as long as slave labor is allowed to exist, then u.s. manufacturing jobs are at risk. unless the u.s. labor force decides to work for slave labor wages.

the next shoe that will drop will be the explosion of robotics in the manufacturing process.

which will turn out millions of workers in the usa into zombies. unemployed. and never to ever become employed again.

apple’s main assembly contractor in china has already told the world that slave labor is not low enough. that within this decade all those slaves will be replaced with robots.

i think you now must ask yourself, what is the future for what i care to call the laboring class?

slow, agonizing deaths on the streets of europe and amerika?

because there really won’t be any other reason for their continuing existence. they will have become supernumeraries in the race for rewarding the top managements.

and i don’t think that any of the firedoglake crew has any clue as to how to arrest that trendline.

short of insurrection.

as i think gerald celente would confirm, the trend is for the feudalism of the industrial world to continue. more rapidly than ever imagined. leaving the knights and barons at the top, not needing any serfs.

the automation, roboticization of the world will render the serfs dispensable.

robotic agricultural tools[deere, agco, caterpillar, et alia] will eliminate farm workers.

robotic manufacturing facilities[also deere, agco, caterpillar, chrysler, ford, gm] will also eliminate the workers.

this will happen. decades ago henry ford 2[the deuce] threatened walter reuther with the elimination of the laborers at ford werks. walter brought the deuce up sharply when he asked if the robots will be purchasing and driving the cars.

the deuce pulled back the goons.

but, this is a different time. the usg doesn’t give a rat’s ass for anyone but the knights, barons, dukes, princes.

and obombya and his ilk would just as soon see all amerikan laborers disappear. so as to replace them with the real serfs, mexican immigrants.

do you doubt that?

AS TO USAID.

IT IS A COVER ENTITY FOR THE CIA. ALWAYS HAS BEEN. ALWAYS WILL BE.

and anyone who thinks otherwise is either colosally ignorant, or a usaid stooge.

Seems more like April 1.

Maybe there’s something to be said for hitting at your opponent’s strong points

Isn’t that self evident, for starters, at least? What’s the point spending time, money and energy of destroying your opponent’s weakest appeal to voters?

You have two shots. Sell yourself and destroy your opponent’s strongest suits.

Then, if you have any time left over, destroy what remains, if anything, of your opponent’s appeal.

Chrysler belonged to Dan Quayle so Obama bailed him out.

Cerberus Capital Management, L.P., thereafter known as Chrysler LLC, although Daimler (renamed as Daimler AG) continued to hold a 19.9% stake.[30] The deal was finalized on August 3, 2007.[31] On April 27, 2009, Daimler AG signed a binding agreement to give up its remaining 19.9% stake in Chrysler LLC to Cerberus Capital Management (Cerberus owned 80 percent already) and pay as much as $600 million into the automaker’s pension fund.

What did Daimler get for that privilege?

The sale of substantially all of Chrysler’s assets to “New Chrysler”, organized as Chrysler Group LLC was completed on June 10, 2009. The federal government provided support for the deal with US$6.6 billion in financing, which was paid to “Old Chrysler”, and a newly formed company called Old Carco LLC took over the remaining assets and liabilities, which remained in Chapter 11 bankruptcy.[33] This transfer excluded eight manufacturing sites, the majority of real estate holdings, and equipment leases. Contracts with 789 dealers in the U.S. were also excluded.[34][35] On May 24, 2011, Chrysler repaid its $7.6 billion loans to the United States and Canadian governments.[36]

On May 24, 2011, Fiat paid back $7.6 billion in U.S. and Canadian government loans.[37] On July 21, Fiat bought the Chrysler shares held by the United States Treasury. With the purchase, Chrysler once again became foreign owned; this time Italian car maker Fiat gained majority ownership and control of Chrysler.[38] The United States government’s involvement in the Chrysler bankruptcy cost U.S. taxpayers $1.3 billion.

That was for Quayle, I guess.

You are not necessarily wrong, but Arbusto at #1 is more correct and relevant. This is, after all, the electorate that delivered a 2nd term to W.Bush (election theft notwithstanding) after a clear demonstration of his kind of rule for 4 yrs. How fuckin’ dumb can any electorate get than that?

And the argument that Obama shouldn’t get a 2nd term via the same logic does not cover it. Romney is just too blatantly worse. Unfortunately, this electorate is also not bright enough to recognize the 3rd party alternatives.

Probably most of the electorate don’t know the ins and outs of particular issues, such as Romney Bain Capital,
Obama.. trade agreements, all of his other failures, and so on,

but I think the electorate knows quite well who these two candidates represent.

they just don’t know what to do about it.

Like none of you has ever bungled a statement before. Stop being so hard on Romney. He obviously meant to say that *if he were CEO of Chrysler* then Jeep production would move to China.

Yes! And I’d bet whips and chains would be waiting for his workers over there. I hear Romney got his inspiration from those Cecil B DeMille movies, and he knows there’s only one way to build a pyramid.