As we wake up to the aftermath of Superstorm Sandy, it appears clear that the most lasting damage is to the New York City transit system. The MTA describes it as the biggest disaster in the 108-year history of the system. Seven subway tunnels are flooded, and system power has been either turned off or is simply malfunctioning.
5.2 million people take public transit in New York City every week. They won’t have that opportunity, save for the bus system, for who knows how long. This Wall Street Journal report, via Yves Smith, hits on some of the important points here:
The subway system is “in jeopardy,” MTA Chairman Joseph Lhota said Monday. “Our subway system and salt water do not mix.”
Salt can eat at motors, metal fasteners and the electronic parts, some many decades old, that keep the system running. Salt water, and the deposits it leaves behind, degrades the relays that run the signal system, preventing train collisions. Salt water also conducts electricity, which can exacerbate damage to signals if the system isn’t powered down before a flood [...]
Agency officials couldn’t say how quickly the subway could be brought back into operation, but Mr. Lhota told a television crew in Manhattan late Monday it could be at least one week before service returned [...]
Klaus Jacob, a research scientist at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, wrote in a report last year that it could take as long as 29 days to pump out a full inundation of the tunnels.
I don’t know that we’re at full inundation, but clearly this is a major situation. After you pump out all the water, you have to inspect every inch of the track, a total of about 600 miles, before moving forward. So pumping the system dry is really just the beginning.
Like Yves, I worry about the untold number of low-income New Yorkers in the outer boroughs, who depend on that subway, who don’t have the means to use any other service, and who will now be corraled onto a bus system that cannot handle the demand. There’s talk of shutting down lanes to traffic and dedicating them to bus service. But you can hardly get the capacity to mirror the subway’s movement of people, even if you stacked buses on top of each other. As Yves writes:
What is going to happen to these people for the week or more while the subway is put back into service? The five boroughs has income disparity as high as China. Many of these people are modestly paid hourly workers, and some will be hit hard by the loss of even a week of income. These are the people you might or might not notice, yet are critical to the functioning of the city: the janitors, the cooks and delivery men, the people who run newsstands and dry cleaners and cobblers and food carts, the people who do secretarial and clerical work in businesses large and small throughout the city. And some are in more obviously important support roles, such as hospital orderlies, private duty nurses, home health aides, nurses and dental hygienists. And if the owners of some of these small businesses can’t get into the city and have to leave their shops shuttered or on reduced hours, they still have to pay the rent. There will be distress that will, as always, strike people who are not well placed, and here it will be by virtue of depending on the subway.
Anytime you have public services disrupted in America the impact falls on the poor. That’s just a truism. In this case, because it’s happening in the heart of the finance and commerce sector, it will also lay bare the enormous inequality at the heart of our modern economy. For many in New York, the loss of the subway won’t register the blink of an eye; for lots of others, it will mean everything.




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Any electrics and electronics would have to be replaced. I have seen what salt water does to it, even if exposed for a short period of time and it isn’t pretty.
Have had to work on it myself. It has to be flushed with clean water to get all the salt off and then any thing with residue has to be thoroughly cleaned or replaced. Electrifying it before this is done can be catastrophic.
I do not know what the effects of salt water are on the electrical components of the subway system, but I am quite familiar with what happens when salt water gets into boat electronics. In general when that happens even for systems designed for a marine environment, the whole thing is ruined. New instruments, new motors, new controllers, and even new wiring is called for. It’ll take a while for a similar process to be complete for the NYC subway system, but as a minimum, their maintenance budget just took a BIG jump. Of course that burden will fall on the riders, disproportionately poor. In a better world, a bump in the minimum wage would follow.
Here’s more on the NYC Subways, with pictures:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-30/new-york-paralyzed-subways-shut-down-indefinitely-subway-chief-worst-disaster-ever
There’s an estimate in the piece that it’ll take from 14 hours to 4 days to pump the water out.
I would not expect ANY trains to be running before Monday. IMO NYC is basically shut down for the next several days.
Some of the lines are mostly undamaged, but the power and controls are interconnected. And salted.
Figure a full day to pump out the flooded tunnels (their pumps are operational and powered, according to what I’ve read), 3 days to inspect and figure out what they need to fix. Then you have to hope you have the parts and spares.
And it could get much worse. Those transformers that power the 3d rail are 600v output and those aren’t common. Outside of the damaged area, I think only Chicago uses those transformers and there will be several subways looking for them. Including Boston. Dunno how helpful Chicago will be.
Boxturtle (We’d best hope the manufacturers of those transofrmers aren’t in the effected area)
Third rail is DC. So there are rectifiers and voltage control involved.
The transformers should be the least concern, as they are passive devices and can be washed and dried. I used to wash out entire oscilloscopes at Tektronix, and the least of any problems were the transformers, even the HV ones.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been in NYC subway, But I recall that most of their breaker boxes were up high. Any of those that got salted will need replaced, though you could run with ‘em short term if they were cleaned thoroughly.
And this is going to thoroughly screw their superconductor cables and network.
I was trapped in a convoy of 5 flatbeds this morning at about 5:30 in Ohio, all heading to points east loaded with pole transformers. Those will be the easy ones, for the largest transformers the production wait can be two years.
Boxturtle (They’d best hope their 768KV stepdowns are okay)
But of course. Mass transit is such a proletarian and “green” concept unbecoming the 1%.
IF the salt water got into the transformers to the point where it contacted the core or the copper, the transformer will eventually fail from corrosion. Fresh or distilled water doesn’t have that effect.
Did you actually successfully refurb scopes that had been in salt water?
Boxturtle (If so, I’m impressed)
From a link at nakedcapitalism.com:
“Tom Murphy says: October 29, 2012 at 2:31 pm
I took a little tour of the Zone A of western Brooklyn this AM(Red Hook, Gowanus and the Sunset Park waterfront). The tide had already reached the top of the seawall. Everywhere it was at the highest levels I have seen, and we’re still 24 hours away from the peak. Fairway in Red Hook is isolated by high water.
At 39th Street and 2nd Avenue, by the off-ramp of the Gowanus Expressway and behind Costco, I spoke with a driver who was hauling new cars out of a waterfront storage lot. I told him it was a little late to move their entire inventory but wished him luck. I had noticed that everywhere along the waterfront were parked vehicles: towed cars, trucks, inter-city buses and, most especially, NYC school buses. All in Zone A, all will be sitting in saltwater tomorrow at this time. Lots of damaged wiring and engines, but can school open again without them?”
[ thenewyorkworld.com/sandy-vs-irene ]
After Katrina they told us any electrical wires that got wet needed to be replaced. This takes time.
Losing a days pay for some people will set them back for months. Do the temporarily out of work qualify for any UI?
Greetings! Economic and employment issues are going to be huge, but I haven’t heard anybody asking just what kind of toxic swill is being pumped out of those tunnels. I have spent a fair amount of time in those tunnels and can’t imagine what the composition of that water will be. Nasty. I saw a photo of my old apartment at 34th and 1st Ave with the entire intersection full of water. Amazing.
Be safe folks, this ride is just getting started.
Not disputing the basic thesis here–the poor are definitionally vulnerable across a wide range of indices–but bear in mind that rich and poor alike take bus and subway in New York. Travel is effectively foreclosed to a lot of people.
Also, cables and wiring will undoubtedly be at risk, but a lot of instrument panels, etc. will remain high and dry. A great deal of the damage is likely to be either immediately apparent as systems short or fail, or incremental, with some salt remaining in equipment after undercarriages are hosed down, shortening its practical life.
Good point about toxics. Years from now, a lot of the cancer deaths may or may not get attributed to Hurricane Sandy, especially if we’re many more climate-change-aggravated tropical storms and hurricanes to the bad.
They don’t have to inspect and certify all 600 miles before restarting limited service on segments that had no flooding. Since the city depends on it, I’m sure that they will come up with a stopgap plan, perhaps with bus bridges to get around damaged sections.
I didn’t, but attempts were made. Wasn’t the most cost effective solution!
The transformers were the least of the problems!
When we washed the scopes (non-salt damaged) we did use a detergent, sprayed on the instrument and washed with a hose in a hooded enclosure, then baked in an oven at about 150F for days.
Ugh, you’re right. The primary occupants of those tunnels are rats, coyotes, and the homeless. None of them flush when they’re done. The leaked oil alone would likely frighten the EPA.
But remember what they said after 9/11: “The air here is just fine”.
Boxturtle (I probably shouldn’t mention asbestos)
Ah,so. The salt makes a difference, but still that’s pretty impressive.
I think their biggest problems are going to be the rectifiers and the control circuits. Dunno if NYC has moved up to solid state rectifiers or not, if they have there will be a lot of replacement.
I wonder how thorough they will be on the inspection. Salt could get under the 3d rail, dry, then the next time it gets wet short the rail to ground. They won’t see it unless they pull the rail off the tie’s.
Boxturtle (Oh, well. It’s 150 years old, probably need replacing anyway)
After Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head, I thought we would have some kind of discussion and maybe even bills introduced to curb gun violence. But even THAT did not register a blip on the elitists, selfish cowardly pricks we have running this country.
Hurricane Sandy won’t register either. My initial thought prior to the storm hitting would be that it would expose all the deficiencies in our infrastructure and lead to some kind of action. But now I have come to my senses.
I have lost all hope on anything resembling compassion for the least among us in Washington, and I am sure they will be back to discussing how best to cut the Federal Government at the expense of the people that have and continue to suffer the most economically.
Being that every electrical engineer knows the dangers of salt and electricity, and being that any major flooding of the subway system will be salt water, I cannot imagine a city like NYC not having contingency plans for what just happened, including dry (wet?) runs at individual system components.
and on a personal note, my *youngest lives in brooklyn and works in lower manhattan. She was thrilled yesterday to have her first-ever paid day off, but was already worried about how to get to work, and if work would be open. She did not think her employer could continue to be so generous with paid days off.
*a college graduate in’09, she just recently got a “real” job vaguely in her field, and up to that point had been subsisting on crap waitressing jobs while working at unpaid interships.
If the rectifiers are the old mercury types, heaven help us.
SCR’s and SCS’s have been around since the 70′s in really HV transmission systems like the Pacific Northwest Intertie to LA. We are talking 500KV here!
I wonder what a subway ride in NYC costs nowadays. I remember as a kid it was 15 cents. That was 1960s.
I walked through that Hoboken station many times. It hardly looks changed.
I remember 15 cents also. I think last time I was in NY I paid $1.50. Wiki says it’s now $2.00
Wiki’s wrong. It’s 2.25.
Yea but $2.25 gets you a snorkle and mask so really pretty good deal :)
We wish her the best! I had several youthful NYC and Brooklyn stints and understand the siren call!
I disagree with the title. The middle and lower classes will be affected. And tourists. NYC will have to cough and sputter along for a few weeks before it can absorb the bulk of the impact of this.
RE: #24
Others are saying $2.25 now for the token (or are they mag strip cards now?).
I recall when the NYC subway was 15 cents, a nice steak dinner was $3.00 or so. I asked my dad about the steak when on vacation in Atlantic City, late ’50s. Don’t know why I remember that anecdote other than it sounded like a lot of money.
Another relic of those times. . . The subway in Manhattan (and surrounding boroughs I think) was split into separate “lines.” There was the IRT, the IND, and BMT. IND meant “independent” as I recall. Don’t know names of the other two. The three lines were kind of balkanized, though. In each station there were color coded maps of the entire system, and how each line overlapped with the others. Any change of line was limited to certain stations, and you had to use stairs to go from one to the other — or navigate a long pedestrian tunnel. It was all set up inconveniently. If I recall correctly the three lines were separately owned by different entities — not sure.
“If I recall correctly the three lines were separately owned by different entities — not sure.”
True.