The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a Pete Peterson-funded front group associated with the Fix the Debt campaign, basically the biggest deficit scolds out there, wrote this piecetrying to differentiate their thirst for austerity from the fiscal cliff, which is an austerity package in and of itself.
They claim that it’s important to “go smart” on the deficit, rather than the big, apparently dumb cuts of the fiscal cliff.
…just because the cliff would reduce the deficit does not mean that it is good fiscal policy. Going over the cliff would also likely send the U.S. into another recession, seeing how the cliff would be among the largest single years of deficit reduction in the past 75 years. When compared with a comprehensive plan that would gradually put debt on a downward path, it is very frontloaded and often across-the-board in nature, eschewing the kind of targeted changes that a fiscal plan would make [...]
This is why comprehensive plans like Simpson-Bowles and Domenici-Rivlin gradually phased in cuts, delaying much of the deficit reduction until when the economy has had more time to recover. Simpson-Bowles specifically put off cuts for a year and phased them in very gradually beyond that–and even then, most of the cuts that took place upfront were discretionary spending cuts which have already taken place. Domenici-Rivlin even included some additional stimulus in the form of a full payroll tax holiday. We have pointed out before that going big on longer-term deficit reduction allows room for short-term stimulus measures or at least slowly phased-in cuts.
It’s very nice for these folks to claim that they want to fix the economy first before going full-bore into deficit reduction. But keep in mind that both Bowles-Simpson (I prefer the B-S ordering of their names) and Domenici-Rivlin were put together 2 years ago. If either of their plans were followed, we would be in the midst of austerity budgeting today. And I seriously doubt that economic conditions would cause them to call for a change in course.
Here’s Domenici-Rivlin’s executive summary. It did call for a full payroll tax holiday, on the employer and employee side. However, that would only have been for the 2011 budget year. So we would be a year removed from that. Furthermore, Domenici-Rivlin wanted the primary budget deficit, i.e. the budget minus interest payments on the debt, to be in balance by 2014. So we would be in serious budget-cutting mode at this point.
Now, maybe that full payroll tax holiday, with 6 times the impact of what we saw in 2011, would have been very stimulative. But over the same time period, Domenici-Rivlin would raise Medicare premiums, turn Medicaid into a managed care program (which would only save money through cost-shifting), freeze all domestic discretionary and defense program spending (we’d be in the third year of that), and force OMB to do across-the-board spending cuts – in other words, EXACTLY WHAT THE SEQUESTER WOULD DO – if spending exceeded a certain cap. So those measures would tend to balance out the one-year effect of the payroll tax holiday, and once that went away, we’d be streaming toward austerity. To get on a path to balance the primary budget deficit by 2014, we’d have to be something like $500 billion under current policy right now.
Similarly, Bowles-Simpson would have begun its cuts in Fiscal Year 2012. They offered no economic stimulus, so we would have seen the same economy that we have today, only one year into austerity.
The idea that these people, who have demanded deficit reduction for most of their adult lives, would have stepped in and called for a delay on the grounds of poor economic performance strains credulity. They would have said that America could not show weakness by delaying the plan, and must face up to the moment of truth. We’d be well into austerity by now, which from the experience of Europe we know would mean significant economic hardship. And the Bipartisan Policy Centers of the world would be hard to find for comment.
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So they’re comedians, too? What other surprises will they be pulling out of
thin airtheir asses?After all the shoutin’ from next Tuesday is over, the fetid, rotting corpse of BS (yeah, I like that ordering, too) will be dragged out and infused with new, almost life-like vigor, no matter who gets the nod.
Sheesh. These idiots.
Only slightly OT: U of C economist phones in anti-Keynesian tirade:
Agree, “B-s”, it is.
A financial coup d’etat … already took place.
We ARE in austerity “mode” and there we shall remain until the people fully grasp the implication AND the reality.
How long a time that might be? That is the basic question, DDay.
Thank you, for educating us sufficiently that we might ask ourselves and each other THE question of WHY we are in this spot, of HOW we might get out of the hole, of WHAT it might require, and WHO, quite specifically, we should hold to account?
The Powers That Be prefer that we get none the wiser.
DW
Might “our” austerity become as grim as that faced by the Greek people, as GREYDOG recounts here:
http://my.firedoglake.com/greydog/2012/10/30/greece-citizens-water-and-power-shut-off-as-profits-continue-to-flow-upward/
And here:
http://my.firedoglake.com/greydog/2012/10/29/greece-a-health-system-in-shambles/
Only time will tell, looking forward …
Bearing in mind, of course, this sort of thing:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/26/richest-congressmen-list_n_2025710.html#slide=1692044
DW
I think austerity really started in 1873.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1873
Factors in the U.S.
Seems we keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Monopolies on energy transportation. $147.50 oil, wasting money, transportation, energy speculation and then disaster….
Austerity is “code” for protect the slave owner, an abolished monopoly on energy/labor, replaced by more sophisticated monopolies of today concerning energy, transportation, finance, and subsidized by taxpayers. Salt in the wound!
AUSTERITY IS A FRAUD being perped by pig billionaire thieves and banksters who wish to retain power to rule populations and hold them hostage. The real problem is CIRCULATION, not spending. What this means is that in such times that the money game of bankster thieves becomes the problem it always is (see ifamericansknew.org) then the case SHOULD be that govt become the employer of last resort to GUARANTEE FULL EMPLOYMENT. I mean, LIVING IS A RIGHT, RIGHT?
Economists agree.
sounds like Pete Peterson and his minions have figured out that their zombie financial institutions would probably fail if we were to go into severe recesson. Better to have a slow, long drawn out depression to facilitate their wealth transfer scheme.
well, as of this morning, 30 yr bond at 3 percent. With the rest of the world’s economies collapsing, would be a pretty good time to invest in green energy, launch a research intensive “Apollo project” to eliminate the 500 billion oil tax we send OUT of our economy every year. Then export the clean energy technologies we develop, which we’re already doing to a smal degree.
Lazy fucking slackers I guess. They just want hand outs. Let them starve./s
Austerity is most probably NEVER the right thing to do. Why is it that people buy into this ? Why is it people think we must pay down the debt, ever? How do we change that?
Austerity…it’s like the zombie that just won’t die off. Once again, we can only hope that the crazy Republicans prevent Obama from passing the B-S Plan like last time.
It’s a shame that we’re relying on sociopaths (Republicans) to stop sociopaths (Pete Peterson and his cabal).
Warren Mosler said that unemployment is like putting nine bones in a room and sending ten dogs in to fetch them. Somebody’s gonna lose. I guess that dog is a slacker.
Macroeconomics, Paul R. Krugman
Side Effects of Public Policy
Hack.
All the more reason to continue to tie the names of Peterson, Bowles, and Simpson (and I would add Kent Conrad) to this whole fiscal cliff mess. Conrad was the one who forced Obama to unilaterally surrender on this issue in order to get reconciliation of Max Baucus’s Health Insurer Subsidy bill passed.
I just heard that genius businessman, Mittens Romney, say that whenever you can send something from the federal government back to the states that is the right thing to do. Well sure. Then you can make it private so you don’t need to worry about what austerity does to your tax revenues. Think FEMA will work well under state control or private control?
The family checkbook fallacy. That’s why they buy into it. They know what would happen if they ran a deficit; indeed, truth-be-told, that’s what high credit card debt is. So most families are reflecting the “ah, shit, not more debt” anxiety when they think about the federal debt. And the framing of the issue in dollars per household as if it is immediately due only plays to this.
The more I hear about this Conrad guy the less I like him. Max Baucus too.
That is exactly what it is. The government has to tighten its belt just like a household. What nonsense.
A not unrelated question: were those fancy vehicles I saw floating in the basement of the New York Stock Exchange the property of those traders sent back into the city in the teeth of the storm by their overlords to keep the Stock Exchange humming? And if so, might we expect some cracks in the edifice of austerity as said overlords have to (perish the thought) hire people to repair the shaky foundations of their mansions (supposing all the while said mansions still have foundations)??
It seems to me the ancient capital of commerce isn’t what it was, though it may pretend to be for a few more days? weeks? (No, let’s stick with days.)
Nothing to see here, people. We’re tightening our belts.
In America’s past jobs where the result of meeting real needs, of a society. Today there is little nexus between between real needs and jobs. Its about making money at the expense of a job.
Then we get dollars stores selling imported crap employing minimum wage workers who live below the poverty line or burger flippers with masters degrees? Go figure?
Lucky for Obama “Max Baucus’s Health Insurer Subsidy bill” happened to be identical to the one he negotiated with the insurance companies a year earlier.
And the problem is that checkbook fallacy is nearly universally accepted as “truth”. I think because people just literally have never heard of any other way of looking at it.
But I think that also means it might be possible to do something about that. I’d be all into supporting a sustained mind blitz of DC, targeting all the staffers and interns and people who like to think of themselves as aware and enlightened. Ads, posters, Occupiers, videos, anything and everything – make it as uncool and out-of-touch to think that the US is “going broke” in any way as it is to be against gay marriage or to deny climate change. Using those examples specifically because, as with those issues, there will be people who are unreachable – so mock them! The US is not a family. Social Security needs to be increased not cut. The deficit is far from being any kind of problem. The national “debit” is not like your credit card. etc etc etc.