the new threats must be seen as every bit a national security issue, requiring a massive response to stop the warming of the planet as soon as possible.

Yup. Time to replace the war on terrah with a war on ocean-level rise. A global boycott of burning carbon. A planetary campaign against greenhouse gases. A galactic crusade to build solar panels & wind farms and the smart grid to share their power.

And they will convert the XL pipeline to carry water from Canada to Texas to irrigate the drought stricken land. :)

The ocean is lovely and the sound is soothing but I cannot understand why anyone would live as close to the shore as some did. The storm was no ones fault but some common sense is indicated about rebuilding homes. I feel so sorry for the people going through this and hope that their troubles are taken care of soon. And where do you put 30,000 people without homes – what a nightmare.

Hundreds of millions of people live on the coast throughout the world and not always by choice.

I didn’t mean to sound as if it’s their fault. I simply would not live that close to the ocean. I remember a number of years ago in a Mid-Western state there was a huge flood which happens about every 10 years. Everything was destroyed and yet the people said that they were going to rebuild in exactly the same place. Why?

A global boycott of burning carbon.

:-)

Undo a half million years of history with a boycot. Humans breath out CO2 also, maybe a boycot against it…

That is a fair question and now the floods and severe weather will occur more often so we have this “inconvenient truth” (to borrow a phrase). What to do about it will define our future and Sandy type storms could happen every year as Greenland glaciers melt away and CO2 keeps building up. That bull on Wall Street could be up to its knees in ocean water every year thanks to the short term profit motives of the climate change deniers for profit that populate the Corporatocracy.

The people that have been struck by hurricane Sandy are going to need to get very VOCAL. How much support do you think mayor bloomy will give to Staten Island residents? For gods sakes he was going let the marathon continue until the back lash crushed the idea of a race.

This is the 1% that are looking out for it’s residents. If you don’t have much dough, too bad pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. If you got money or influence we can help you to a degree.

After this election you are going to continue to see $MONEY$ drive the narrative. If you got it and depending on how much they will acknowledge you and perhaps give you some of their attention. If you don’t have it then fuck you and don’t give me any back talk or I’ll call you a socialist and arrest you if you get to noisy.

Staten Islanders are going to have to march on city hall if they want to get any real relief. It still won’t guarantee any government assistance however it will be a hell of a story if Staten Islanders start getting arrested by the NYPD for any demonstrations.

A good question right now is how long will it take to fix all the damage and will another storm hit next year. New York will only be the haves on the east side if that happens and that is sad on many levels. Will the uber wealthy pony up to save their beloved City that never sleeps (when it has power)?

Yeah, the Red River floods of the first decade of the 2000s. Also, recall regular floods along the Mississippi.

if Norske is right, the banksters are suddenly getting religion about global warming because they just saw their entire city shut down for a week due to a 14-foot surge caused by rising ocean levels caused directly by global warming.

(For alan in tx, this does not mean they or anyone else believes that Sandy was “caused by” global warming. Causation of a particular storm is a red herring when we know for a fact that ocean-level rises are caused by global warming and it was the rising ocean that flooded Manhattan).

how ’bout we use the Keystone pipeline to suck the ocean out of the Hudson River tunnels?

Staten Islanders are going to have to march on city hall if they want to get any real relief. It still won’t guarantee any government assistance however it will be a hell of a story if Staten Islanders start getting arrested by the NYPD for any demonstrations.

I love it. The pictures actually do look like Occupy Wall Street has moved to Staten Island.

I hear allot of Cops live on Staten Island as well. Not the white shirts but the rank and file.

and Fractal@13

LINK
“And while the Defense Department recently dispatched 24 million gallons of fuel to the region, many citizens haven’t seen the military, or the Red Cross, since the storm hit. While FEMA workers were spotted recently in Staten Island, other citizens have received help from an entirely separate source: Occupy Wall Street…

Understandably, residents were extremely grateful to receive any help they could get, but storm-ravaged communities weren’t the only recipients glad to see the sometimes-villainized occupiers. In a truly bizarre moment (especially to observers of the NYPD’s violent suppression of Occupy during its time at Zuccotti), FEMA and NYPD officers joined in chanting “We are unstoppable, another world is possible” with Occupy Sandy volunteers helping at Far Rockaway.”

Fantastic! (If this were happening in Jersey I would add another F word) :)

Yup. Just like in Breezy Point, Queens, which is on the end of the Rockaway peninsula, that little pinky finger that drops down under the left side of Long Island, under Brooklyn, just below and to the right of Coney Island.

Get a google map for Jacob Riis Park or Breezy Point Tip, New York, NY.

Staten Island on the left (west) is separated from Rockaway Peninsula by the “Lower Bay,” which is lower New York Bay, a giant miles wide ocean mouth. Bullseye for the surge.

far out

Interoccupy:

Occupy Sandy homepage

Occupy Sandy NJ

more from your link to the Nation article:

Volunteer Sofía Gallisá Muriente has been working in the Rockaway relief effort throughout the week ….

Like LaRoe, Muriente has not seen any Red Cross workers, or any other aid outside of Occupy Sandy, in the parts of Rockaway she’s been stationed at.

“A lot of people have made it very clear we’re the only ones helping them out,” said Muriente. “They say they haven’t received any help from FEMA or the Red Cross. I haven’t seen the Red Cross. I’ve seen the National Guard, but I haven’t seen them distributing anything. I’ve just seen them patrolling, and the only supplies I’ve seen the National Guard give away are the things they gave away to us. Two nights ago, they pulled over and gave us a truck full of water and meals, which really startled all of us because it means they recognize we have things under control in a more efficient way than they do. It legitimizes the whole thing we’ve been doing.”

Occupy Sandy Interactive Map

there’s a donation button at the top left on several of those pages:

https://www.wepay.com/donations/occupy-sandy-cleanup-volunteers

So far, according to WePay dot com, Occupy Sandy has raised over $196,000.

It’s amazing, they’re also using Amazon’s wedding gift registry, so people can
see what’s needed and order what they can afford.

related information

“Sea level rise is accelerating three to four times faster along the densely populated east coast of the US than other US coasts, scientists have discovered. The zone, dubbed a “hotspot” by the researchers, means the ocean from Boston to New York to North Carolina is set to experience a rise up a third greater than that seen globally.

Asbury Sallenger, at the US geological survey at St Petersburg, Florida, who led the new study, said: “That makes storm surges that much higher and the reach of the waves that crash onto the coast that much higher. In terms of people and communities preparing for these things, there are extreme regional variations and we need to keep that in mind. We can’t view sea level rise as uniform, like filling up a bath tub. Some places will rise quicker than others and the whole urban corridor of north-east US is one of these places.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jun/24/us-east-coast-sea-level-rise

jayzus cripes!

Turns out, NYC was warned about this whole silly “ocean surge can flood your city” concept more than three years ago. Sounds like a good basis for some lawsuits, IMHO.

As the authorities examine how they can protect New York City from extreme weather events like Hurricane Sandy, one of the nation’s most influential groups of engineers is pointing out that more than three years ago, it presented detailed warnings that a devastating storm surge in the region was all but inevitable.

The warnings were voiced at a seminar in New York City convened by the American Society of Civil Engineers, whose findings are so respected that they are often written into building codes around the world. Corporate, academic and government engineers at the meeting presented computer simulations of the storm-surge threat and detailed engineering designs of measures to counter it.

Officials from the city’s Office of Emergency Management and the United States Army Corps of Engineers took part in the seminar, serving on review panels or giving talks.

Participants in the 2009 seminar called on officials to seriously consider whether to install surge barriers or tide gates in New York Harbor to protect the city. Their views are contained in 300 pages of technical papers, historical studies and engineering designs from the seminar, copies of which the society provided to The New York Times.

[snip]

Experts who were at the 2009 conference said that while the technology comes with many questions, it has already been deployed around the world, including in the Netherlands and on the Thames in London. Several American cities have versions of the structures, and a barrier surrounds St. Petersburg, Russia.

Jeroen Aerts, a researcher from the University of Amsterdam who was retained by the city in 2009 to assess flood risks and protections, said he was asked by officials to look into barriers after Tropical Storm Irene.

Dr. Aerts said that he was still working on the research, but that the city should consider such a proposal. “Obviously, there’s a sense of urgency now,” he said.

boston to new york to North Carolina

going to take one hell of a big sea wall.

The human species is one hell of a strange configuration.

there are so many aspects of the coastal predicaments.

let us consider barrier islands, for instance.where there is no underlying bedrock. in other words, structures built on sand. why is it that the placement of structures on such a flimsy foundation is allowed? is it because of the influence of the real estate/construction industry? i sure think so.

and since the largest number of such coastal residences were/are owned by the 1%, i think that sector of real estate consumers convinced the congress to implement the federal flood insurance program[a program financed by the totality of the citizenry]. if one had to pay for flood insurance from a normal casualty insuror, there would be very little coastal residential construction.

if a photo essay in a time lapse style existed of coastal dade/broward counties in florida from 1997 – 2007, i think you would be astonished by what you would see. on either side of the intracoastal, in that decade, the area resembled manhattan. high rise buildings from hollywood as far south as the eye could see. there used to be some limitations on building height, but you know those politicians, a little grease here, a little grease there and many code variations were permitted. the best story concerns the diplomat hotel and convention center. 30+[?] stories built on the atlantic coast of the sand bar. as i recall, the original code for that locality was no buildings on that sand bar could be higher than 8[?] stories. the owners of the building, a canadian union fronting for the canadian mafia[and there is one, by the way] fought for a higher building. but in very acrimonious public hearings, the canadian union was finally limited to the code’s building height. then there was the secret variance hearing, where the canadian mob was granted its demands. so, a much too large/high of a hotel was built.

of course, once the height regulation was breached in this instant, the cat was out of the bag. you know, when the hotel was first opened, it had about 100′ – 300′ of beach. within 12-24 months, there was no beach. the surf crashed onto the wall of the pool area. when the hotel opened, you could walk the beach to enter the hotel. then, it was at high tide when you couldn’t get there via the beach. and the last time i was there, 2007, you couldn’t walk there via the beach[what beach] at low tide.

and the hotel began to take a list eastward. everyone seemed to have forgotten what such a weighty building does to the sand on a barrier island. it pushes away the sand. and the ocean carries it away.

of course ft lauderdale didn’t help any when it decided to turn itself into a major cruise boat port. again, you have to follow the money. seems that when ft lauderdale promulgated this project, it recognized that it was going to have to line the channel into the cruise ship port with steel rip rap. which it extended out to far. this prevented the normal north-south migration of sand. so, everyone south of ft lauderdale lost the normal, natural replenishment of the beaches. at the same time, the ft lauderdale beaches grew eastward by astonishing linear amounts.

if you haven’t figured it out yet, my point is that the issues of coastal habitation are much more complex than climate change.

Somebody said here that Goldman Sachs had all its building lights on while neighboring buildings were darkened. That tells me they think they’re an island immune from the worries of the rest of humanity.