President Obama meets with labor and progressive leaders today about the fiscal slope. I hardly want to be accused of being cynical, but he’s meeting with the group furthest to the left in the conversation the furthest away from the actual negotiations on the deal; tomorrow, he welcomes business leaders to the White House.
The leaders of SEIU, AFSCME, the NEA and the AFL-CIO will participate in the meeting, as well as representatives from the Center for Community Change, MoveOn, the Center for American Progress, the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, the Common Purpose Project (the ultimate veal pen coalition) and the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare. Many of these groups have been organizing since the election against a grand bargain that would cut social safety net programs. But past performance does not guarantee future results. And nobody should expect a harmonious working relationship between these groups and the White House on these matters, nor should they expect a permanent oppositional stance to social insurance cuts from progressive organizations, despite their protests.
AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told The Huffington Post last week that his group would oppose any deal that cuts the three big entitlement programs.
“Yes. Yes. Yes. The voters yesterday rejected that notion soundly,” Trumka said at a briefing on Nov. 7. “The answer is, if it includes benefit cuts to Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, we’ll oppose it.”
Van Jones, co-founder of Rebuild the Dream, went further, noting that none of the progressive political institutions have “demobilized” since the election.
“We are still on a complete fighting posture because we knew we had to win the politics in November and then on the economy in December,” Jones said. “For the progressives who threw ourselves on hand grenades for the president over the past 24 months and especially the past six months, we are not going to be happy at all if he turns around and takes a chainsaw to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security in pursuit of some misguided so-called grand bargain.”
We have to see what happens if these same groups present whatever deal comes down the pike as less than “taking a chainsaw” to these programs, and therefore acceptable. These are the groups that worked hard and spent lots of money getting Obama re-elected. You can see this as building capital for getting their voices heard in the White House, or blowing leverage they had with a President who now never needs their votes or their help again.
I don’t have any special inside information into how this will all go; I’m merely basing this on past history. Maybe progressive groups have drawn a line in the sand they will not cross, wary of having to deal with their own constituencies. Maybe they won’t have terms dictated from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. They can certainly show us from their post-meeting actions.




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Oh go ahead Dave, be cynical. At this point I think it’s warrented. How many times have those groups kicked the football?
Richard Trumka is the President and CEO of the Veal Pen.
Will any of them be brave enough to ask, “Does this mean EFCA is back on the table?” ?
#notwaitingwithbatedbreath
Incorrect. They’ve been organizing to make it look like they’re against a “grand bargain.” They’re actually for whatever Obama is for — that’s how they get paid. See, out in the real world, people have to make money in order to eat.
Capitalism is a terrorist economic system.
The only real question, I fear, is whether we ever learn how severe the arm-twisting was. Usually what’s left of the left just emerges smiling and sore.
I wonder if any of them have the balls to point out what Krugman’s been saying? Someone should ask PBO if he wants to repeat the same mistakes as Europe. Someone should ask PBO why he wants to crap on his own legacy re: austerity.
If they all leave for Canada after the meeting will that be considered a “bad” sign.
You are assuming PBO (I like that) has any free will in his policy making. He doesn’t. Does PBO stand for President Barack Obama or Peanut Butter and Onion; either way it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
Is it a bad sign when Obama attends the meeting holding a perfumed handkerchief to his nose?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWEBeycIPxY
He’ll give ‘em lip service, tell them about his comfortable fucking shoes again and then stab ‘em in the fucking back again.
Jobs Now.
So is the question now: how much is a chain saws worth? Nice way to play the roll.
No one has the balls to do it.
Is there anyone on that list who was involved in the health care debate and didn’t blink when Obama dropped the public option? The unions and MoveOn accommodated the administration then and I have no reason to believe they won’t do it now. Otherwise, I doubt they’d have been invited. I notice PCCC wasn’t.
Now that he doesn’t need these people, is this simply window dressing for saying that he consulted them, but this is the path he is taking which just happens to align more closely with the “savvy businessmen’s” agenda?
The business leaders coming? Oh man. But if they were smart they would want less austerity and more spending, so they had more profit. But whoever said they waz smart?
Yes.
If the (so-called) “progressives” wish to be taken seriously, they might consider dropping the word “entitlements” and start using the term “insurance programs,” instead. Just sayin’…
Why do any business leaders get a seat at the table when it comes to goverment-paid retirement benefits to individual citizens?
There are a lot more peas on the menu for working Americans.
hope change
forward
can anyone point out where the sacrifices that have been made by corporate America are listed?
There must be a list somewhere.
Well don’t say that some of us haven’t “warned” everyone else.
Cynical, DDay? Me too!
Won’t be holding my breath. Getting ready for the Grand Bargain capitulation to begin in 5… 4…. 3…
Don’t know about the last, but I sure agree with the first.
Agreed. From a Salon interview with Trumka:
Now don’t you feel relieved? He doesn’t think that’s the president’s position, but if it is, he’ll oppose it.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/12/labor_chief_richard_trumka_we_wont_be_taken_for_granted/
Definitely more times than FDL. :>)))
There are plenty of weasel words out there from people like Van Jones and those of his ilk and if I see/hear one quote from the 3ed way I think I am going to throw up….we will see whose side people are really on going forward!
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hey ‘progressive groups’ it’s called ‘being chumped’ by a ‘confidence man’
‘won’t take my meals off of tax payer china. aint gonna eat at that white house diner.’ g.singlaub
Now comes the knife. He’ll make the cuts and he’ll have the balls to say he’s saving the programs. You can wager he won’t cut defense though.
Alas, Obama believes that his legacy will be best represented by 1) his doing Wall Street’s bidding, 2) his becoming insanely rich, and 3) outdoing St. Ronnie on attacking the great and glorious, dearly beloved social safety net programs of FDR and LBJ.
Obama is not a Democrat. Period. He is to the right of Richard Nixon. He runs as a Dem, using the party banner and reputation as his flag of convenience.
Van Jones getting tough with the Obama administration would certainly be a “first.”
“Obama Meets With Labor, Progressive Groups Today”
Or, as the Obama administration might call it behind closed doors, putting in a pro forma appearance with the fucking retards.
here is one guy that has been very good about calling the phoneys That is Bill Black!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/third-way-wall-street_b_2121372.html
The mood Obama is in, maybe we should revisit healthcare debate. Who knows, he seems to be feeling generous, maybe we should try again for single payer. My bet is this won’t last long. Grab whatever you can while you can.
Why in the hell do the Democrap leaders accept Republican framing by calling these entitlement programs? Why the hell do they call it the Grand Bargain when it is no bargain at all?