Mitch McConnell laid out his wish list for the endgame in the fiscal slope negotiations, and it’s basically the kinds of social insurance benefit cuts that the White House offered up in 2011 (which is again a reminder why you don’t offer those up as a bluff, because they will come back to haunt you), in exchange for revenue without a tax rate increase.
Mr. McConnell (R., Ky.) said bipartisan agreement on higher Medicare premiums for the wealthy, an increase in the Medicare eligibility age and slowing cost-of-living increases for Social Security could move both parties closer to a budget deal that averts the so-called fiscal cliff, the combination of spending cuts and tax increases that start in early January unless Washington acts.
In return for the support of Democrats, he said, Republicans would agree to include more tax revenue in a budget deal, though not from higher rates.
“Those are the kinds of things that would get Republicans interested in new revenue,” Mr. McConnell said.
At least we’re getting specific now. Cut benefits through means-testing (which to acquire any kind of revenue must dip well into the middle class, since there’s already means-testing on the wealthy in Medicare), raising the eligibility age and reducing future Social Security cost of living adjustments. And instead of raising rates, cap deductions, i.e. Mitt Romney’s tax plan. In response, the White House laid down a marker: “A senior administration official said the White House would make no new offers until Republicans changed their opposition to raising top tax rates.”
That’s what we call an impasse. McConnell doesn’t have much power in this debate – Obama and John Boehner will negotiate the deal – but he probably speaks for the general Republican viewpoint here. And what Congress could opt for in this time of impasse is that benchmark of negotiating – the conference committee.
See, it turns out that the House and Senate have already passed tax bills. The House’s bill extends the Bush-era tax cuts fully for a year. The Senate bill only extends the rates on the first $250,000 of income, and increases the top rate on dividend and capital gains from 15% to 20%. The Senate bill also maintains three stimulus-era tax breaks, expansions of the child tax credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit, along with a tax credit for college tuition. And both bills patch the alternative minimum tax for 2012, so it won’t hit middle-class families (this is an annual ritual in Washington).
That covers a healthy amount of the tax provisions expiring at the end of the year. And as it’s a tax bill, it could be a vehicle as a catch-all for how to avoid the fiscal slope, at least on the tax side. That’s technically against the rules, but Congress can certainly waive them. So the House and Senate could just appoint conferees, and move forward with an actual negotiation, instead of these negotiations through the media.
The advantages of going to conference committee include the fact that the finished product returning becomes non-amendable (though it can still be filibustered in the Senate). You can fast-track the conference report onto the floor without going through the committee process. And most important to me, you can provide some transparency in these negotiations that has been lacking. Conference committees are often pro forma processes, with the real work going on behind the scenes, but members of the conference committee still have to vote on any changes, in public view.
A conference committee will at least create a forum for the debate in public rather than in cloistered back rooms.
Photo from Senator Mark Warner under Creative Commons License.






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“As a bluff”?
You don’t really think President Obama was bluffing, do you?
Why are we talking about any negotiations period? Lets go to the new congress the one which will have restrictions on the filibuster. LET ALL THE TAX CUTS expire period. Next year January Obama can push for a middle class tax cut and dare the Repugs not to vote for it with heavy press coverage daily declaring if they don’t pass it then throw the bums out in the midterms. As far as cap gains and dividends let all of that not only expire but have it all count as regular income with top rate of 39.6% (that will get Wall Street panties in a bunch you can bet the house on that). As far as sequester cuts don’t they mainly fall on defense? By all means I call 600 billion in cuts to defense……. a START!!
Then go backwards for every 100 billion reduction in cut for defense add 100 billion to Unemploy comp or infrastructure build. If the Repugs don’t want capital gains to go to full regular income tax rates for every 5 points off that then add things we want –like taking cap off social security tax and make sure SS tax goes on all income including cap gains and dividends. Its a given that the REPUGS would do or sign anything not to lose cap gains and dividends special status so quit worrying about the little things and go after their jugular!! Thats where all the money is….
The DEMS have all the chips and aces in the hole so of course we on the left are assuming they will fold. Maybe, for once, DEM leadership could have a set and do the RIGHT THING.
“At least we’re getting specific now.” Personally, I don’t feel myself to be part of the process.
2x. I don’t remember any reporting during that time period suggesting Obama was bluffing. I think his current stance is a placebo to keep the professional left happy until the cuts are a done deal.
That’s just what I was going to say, too. If Obama was bluffing, then why did he complain later that so few people knew what he was offering?
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Different world now as all the pressure is on the REPUGS plus Obama not in re-election mode and might just want to have a few positives as his legacy. Hate to be too Missy Merry Sunberryish but maybe just maybe we get a little progressive ATTITUDE from our middle of the road President. Maybe he wanted to survive (literally) the first term and now re-elected he feels some weight of history available to him. Damn wouldn’t that be nice…
All the pressure is on the Republicans? What pressure, exactly, is on them now that wasn’t on them before? And what new pressure is on the Democrats to be more liberal? After all (we’ll be told) 2014 is just around the corner.
And we know (he has said it once or a dozen times) how Obama wants to go down in history. It starts with “Grand” and ends with “Bargain”. Also, too, bipartisanship.
0bama wasn’t bluffing; he was letting his inner Republican shine through. The amusing part is that if they had taken Obama’s 2011 offer he would have been a one term President.
If Obama is bluffing he is bluffing to the “professional left” and everybody else, whatever it means.
Balancing the budget means different things for state and USA finances.
A. (State taxes = state spending – state debt) for the states and
B. ( Federal Deficits = Net Private Savings + Net Imports,) for money creating USA.
For B, deficits must exceed net imports (about 500 billion) for there to be ANY growth at all.
Cutting deficits is ENTIRELY in the wrong direction.
Media and mainstream economists always discuss A to fool the people and the people have been very obliging because it has become obvious to them by incessant propaganda.
Equation B is NOT a school of thought. It is just plain accounting. There is no way cutting deficits will grow anything except inequality!
http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/the-committee-for-a-responsible-federal-budget-and-the-death-of-a-thousand-cuts/
This entire tax conflict is a ruse .The fiscal cliff is about meat-axe austerity ,which any fool knows diminishes revenues ,creates more spending ,and hence produces greater budget shortfalls yielding even larger debt burdens to further enfeeble economy for monopoly predation,.The euro-experiment provides irrefutable evidence that this contention is true ,but anyone with the mind of a child should have deduced this years ago .
We give no evidence of not being a nation of simpletons ,and the body politic will treat us accordingly until we say “”forget the tax theatrics and balance budgets the only possible way ,expanding jobs ,consumption and hence the revenue base .The tax chimera is supposed to give the ignorant and stupid an emotional rescue by having the churls think flesh is also being extracted from monopoly oligarchs.Do you honestly think a political culture owned by Government Sachs would dare take on Blankfein ? After the kleptocrats’ ‘lobbyists and tax lawyers make their post-cliff return ,their effective tax outlay will not a dime more than it is now .
As usual ,the public is given a false choice of economic extraction ,with Obama giving a middle class tax relief by stealing from SS ,and austerity to depress the economy so taxpayers will demand draconian pension cuts .This care package will then be packaged in a ”cave to save” scam in which a dollar in unemployment extensions yields a thousand for the power-elites .
My contentions proffer no intellectual or predictive gifts ,just a good memory and an aptitude to avert pack mentality .
Myself-I don’t have any problem whatsoever if 50% of my income goes to taxes as long as I have birth to death health care coverage, can retire at full benefit at age 62, and have free education if I maintained an adequate GPA thru collegiate level. Think both employee and employer share of FICA should go up to 10% or maybe even 15% each with no cap and with Dividends and capital gains counted as ordinary income for FICA purposes and once that is done, frankly scarlet I don’t give a damn if not one penny more goes to the feds. Who gets hurt with that concept? Well almost no one except the military industrial complex and corporate welfare.
Business should want Medicare for all to free themselves up to compete globally like every other business in the civilized world already has. You want to eliminate deficits is easy also–raise minimum wage to $15 per hour and you have a huge new base of tax payers. Why in the world do we allow assholes like the Walmart family to pay subservient wages when 60% of their employees also either get food stamps, Medicaid or other forms of government help. Why are we as taxpayers subsidizing Walmart profits?? Bang the drum-maybe a little truth will leak out once and awhile.
Obama is running the middle-class-is-being-held-hostage play again. The smart money says that the top tax rates on income and the rate on capital gains will be the same next year as they are now.
Obama is a phony!
Here is the “hostage” article I alluded to in post #12:
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-accuses-house-gop-holding-middle-class-tax-110043481–abc-news-politics.html
Walmart is a the best retail example of moocher elite socialism that has destroyed small entrepreneurs across the USA by gaining monopoly via welfare alms.However ,the primary focus should be on the banking oligarchs and their financial and insurance holdings .BP was given a wrist slapping while our corporate pravda hide the fact that BP must survive because of massive insurance and financing exposures of the banksters .Remember ,interlocking boards of directors ensure these entities are never solo acts.
Yesterday Bernie denounced Blankfein as the face of class warfare ,and since most of us do little or no direct action other than supporting OWS ,I think we should focalize all are efforts on GS .Assuming a few people take a few of us seriously ,let’s at least adhere to basic stress analysis ,and go after the weakest link and create chaos throughout the system .GS has massive power but it is universally despised and demonized .
Argue with me if a better cancer should be targeted ,but putting out fires everywhere is a road to nowhere .We know the only options,cancer kills the host or the host kills the cancer .The last hope for a peaceful resolution is mass resistance targeting a point that can unravel the whole house of cards .
T o clarify my point ,we need a face of the monopoly cancer ,or two faces ,to give a visual to the corporate-monopoly abstraction ,and these faces should serve as reference points in all our narratives that critique the royalist parasites who , like all smart parasites ,deceive their hosts into believing they are necessary for the hosts’ survival .