Some skullduggery on the Senate floor today.
If I can piece together what happened, Mitch McConnell up and requested unanimous consent for an immediate vote on the Geithner plan – the initial offer that the White House made to avert the fiscal slope. And Harry Reid, calling it a “stunt,” objected to the UC request.
Now why would he do that? The Geithner plan was pretty much universally lauded by Democrats as the best offer in the context of deficit reduction. It includes near-term stimulus and raises most of its funds from tax increases that target the wealthy. It also abolishes the debt limit, effectively. What’s not to like?
Well, for a handful of Democrats, those taxes on the rich, of course. They were willing to go along with an increase to the top two tax rates. But they don’t like all the specifics of the deduction limits and loophole closures in the other half of the deal. In particular, the Geithner plan would take a middle ground on the estate tax, bringing it back to a $3.5 million exemption and a 45% tax rate. Max Baucus has said publicly that he prefers the estate tax get fixed at 2009 levels, with the $5 million exemption and the 35% tax rate. This is why Democrats didn’t include anything on the estate tax in their Senate tax bill, because they didn’t have a unified position in the caucus.
So Baucus, and several other ConservaDems, probably WOULD NOT VOTE FOR the Geithner plan, particularly over these issues of raising additional taxes on the rich. At any rate, they don’t want to take that vote, particularly because there’s no way the House would pass it, and it would involve Baucus et al walking the plank for no good reason. I personally think it’s a good reason to say that we don’t want an landed gentry in this country, but their mileage clearly varies.
In other words, for all the talk of the dysfunctional Republican caucus, it shouldn’t be forgotten that Democrats aren’t universally sweetness and light either.





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demodogs = corp. owned puppets.
Max doesn’t want to raise Liz Fowler’s estate taxes.
Senate is owned and operated by billionaires and populated with millionaires and labeling them Democrat or Republican is disingenuous.
Bingo. Can’t be said loud enough or often enough.
I’d say this is an opportunity to shine the spotlight on the reality that Baucus represents a relative handful of rich people who’ve made a fortune off Federal lands, and or those originally stolen from Native Americans.
The interests of the American people are being held captive to the necessity that a senator from a sparsely populated state must represent only the interests of a very small minority of that small populace.
In short, it’s very much the whole of our problem in microcosm, so let’s turn up the spot-lights and take a good long look.
Ahh the theater of it all.
It is the House of Lords.
Does Baucus have Secret Service protection?
Start naming names and handing them out to the homeless and poor in Montana or, better yet, Washington, D.C. where there’s resistance to a pretty moderate Obama plan. Tell them that if they want to have things like food, shelter, clothing and a chance at a job they need to find these Senators and visit their homes and places of work. And not to take no for an answer. We get plenty of that from these corporate owned assholes already. I really find Baucus to be a perfect fucker. There’s simply no end to the prick.
Ohhhh, a fart by any other name would still stink. But, OTOH, can’t tell the players without a program. Diffrerent uniforms are helpful in identifyint the target.
Tell me again the difference . . .etc.
People say it’s the best government money can buy.
I respectfully disagree.
If you spell “lords” “despicable assholes” then I agree.
I have a bad feeling this will not end well for the 99%.
Surely you jest? We have our friends in congress to look after our best interests.
Don, OK, one more time…..there’s silent farts that you don’t hear but you smell. You can;t tell exactly whre it came from. And then there’s the audible farts that are immediastely recognizable and attributable to s specific source.
Oh after the White House gives Baucus the Kucinich treatment on a flight on Air Force One and then meets with the collective caucus of Blue Dogs and calls them “f*cking retards”, they’ll come around.
-stewartm, oh, wait.
Ah, DDay, you do remember what that great Democratic party loyalist, TBogg, once said?
He said, in reference to Firedoglake, one imagines, but it applies equally to the lager political “process” … “This in not a democracy it is a business …”
And therein, ladies and germs, lies the truth of it.
The Senate was originally intended to represent the “landed gentry”, indeed, it was not to even be “selected” by the riff raff, by hoi paloi and, by the supreme grace of the “invisible hand”, it clearly and blatantly does so, once again.
But, don’t take it personally, it’s only business … as usual …
Ah well, at least the outside, lookers “in”, are beginning and only beginning, to realize the business-end, bottom-line truth of things.
Wonder how it will all turn out?
DW
Well, Maxie is certainly consistent. He’s been a stooge for Big Pharma, Big Natural Resource Extractors and now the 1%ers. With consistency like that the one thing Max doesn’t need is Viagra or Castor Oil. That’s for sure. The rest of us should just ask for gov’t issued rain gear. Purely for defense purposes.
stewartm that made my cynical heart laugh.
:-D
Well, I got *something* accomplished today then.
-stewartm
Hey, stewie. While I was away the rats did play. So, what’s your concept of moderate? Hanging your scrawny ass over the edge of a chair while I just busted my hump for 80 hours in the last six days? ” First they came for the intellectuals, and I did nothing because, alas, they didn’t find any. “
I’m thinking that you’re perceiving an argument that isn’t there. Obama’s plan is quite “moderate”, “moderate” almost to the point of being insufficient to address the nation’s real needs (though I do admit it sort of surprised me because I suspected something far worse as his initial volley which of course would be caved compromised downward). Still, it’s actually quite sad that it’s the left post in this debate.
But my point is/was that in previous initiatives the Obama administration has shown plenty of willingness to browbeat progressives (the Kucinich Air Force One ride, and Rahm’s calling the Progressive Caucus “f*cking retards”) while showing no willingness whatsoever to bring anything like the same pressure against recalcitrant ConservaDems and Blue Dogs. I’m with those who say that in the past 4 years Obama has largely gotten what he’s wanted, and the fact it’s not been progressive is not because Obama’s been bullied by obstinate Repubs and Joe Liebermanns. He’s been more than willing to go along with them.
At the end of the health care debate, Liebermann said that not once did he get a phone call from the White House, despite his duplicity and his shooting down his own previous support for Medicare expansion. He got no phone call save at the end thanking him for his support. I believe him.
-stewartm
And me and my buddies have caught a bad case of them ” Working Man Blues ” and we didn’t even start the contagion. The rich are like bank robbers. They continue to rob banks fully knowing the cops are closing in. They don’t quit stealing and working the angles just because the gig is about up, in fact, they double down. That fact is overlooked by most people until it gets to the ” bendin’ end ” of things. The grifters in our plutocracy know full well their time is about up. They’re at the point of doubling down and looking for a good defense atty. Me and mine say push the m&neffers right to the point of no return. When you’re dealin’ with bald faced liars and crooks I say call them out, cut their throats and move on. Now, I’m Taking Five.
Listen to Obama. Painful changes to entitlements have to happen.
We are about to get rolled peeps.
A little tax increase on the rich and earned benefits slashed when most of us can’t afford that.
Planned genocide is what’s going on right before our eyes.
True of every institution and organization on the left. At least TBogg was being honest.
I don’t know where meaningful social change comes from, but it is logically impossible for it to come from the extant left. People on the left will continue to get paid though, and really, isn’t that what matters most?