In saying this, Boehner is trying to talk Americans out of the opinion they’ve already formulated, that the GOP would be responsible if the nation started down the fiscal slope. Instead, he’ll leave on the table what is a very favorable deficit offer, and do this millionaire’s bracket gambit, which the Senate has already said cannot pass, and which the White House has already said they’ll veto. The President very explicitly laid out his offer, and all the public gets from Boehner is a tax cut bill. I don’t see how that flies among the public.
I have to assume that Boehner is pretty confident he can pass the millionaire’s bracket through the House. Grover Norquist gave his blessing to the legislation as not a violation of the no-tax pledge. So presumably he’ll only lose a few at the margins. There’s also going to be a vote on extending the Bush-era rates on the first $250,000 of income, which is expected to fail, though I’ll be interested to see the final results on that. I would imagine Boehner’s troops will whip hard against that.
Then the Senate will refuse to pass the House bill and demand that the House passes the Senate bill, with its $250,000 threshold. And at that point, we’ll be at an impasse, with both sides focused only on the tax side of the fiscal slope – and really only tax RATES, not all of the other expiring tax measures – and nobody talking about the spending side. The “threat” of falling over the slope is what Boehner’s counting on.
And after a couple days of this, we’ll figure out if that’s a real threat or not.





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I can tell you if it’s a real threat right now: It’s not.
But Negotiating 101 requires that you have at least a credible threat to walk way. That’s what Boehner’s doing here. He already got most of what he wanted, but he’s hoping to get just a bit more before this deal gets baked into the cake.
Sounds like he can’t deliver on the $400,000 level tax increase he promised.
Boehner has learned that it pays to play a game of “chicken” against a guy with a track record of chickening out.
Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick. Only 12 more days ’til Cliffmas. Only 12 more days of this annoying pseudo-negotiating BS. Only 12 more days of progressive panic.
I think Surtt nailed it. Boehner can’t deliver. Unlike 2010, Obama doesn’t have to run again, but Democrats in Congress do.
Where did my comment go? It was listed read then gone?
Traitors to this republic. The One percent have raped America as a King and his corporate cadre mercantiled colonists. America’s one percent and enthroned corporate shells have destroyed opportunity in America, instead of enabling opportunity, they are hoarding wealth, at America’s expense. So John B, $877,000,000,000 blown out America’s tailpipes in two years going to work? Speaking of taxing situation on a society, getting screwed everyday, driving. Giving it right back to that 1% as America is in servitude to energy as slave was enslaved for energy.
Platinum “B” Plan? Yes Protect the slave owners?
Oh no! Not the terrifying fiscal slope! We could tumble ever so gently into 2013. It could be…just…I don’t even want to contemplate it!
And hey Boner: Don’t you have an appointment at the liquor store or the orange paint store or something? Shut your piehole and get moving. You don’t want to be late…
What Mr. B does is irrelevant. What Mr. O does is what matters:
From the latest NYTimes. Weakening the safety net. Weakening the economy. Whores for billionaires.
So you’re buying Boehner’s bluff.
GOP would rather have all the Bush tax cuts expire than:
- Keep Bush tax cuts for the first $400,000 of income
- Keep the Bush tax cuts on divident and estate taxes
- Deal a severe blow to the New Deal by breaking the 70 year-old compact that Social Security changes are not to be used primarily to plug short-term budget holes
- Raise taxes disproportionately on low-income people by changing income tax brackets
- Get a promise on tax and entitlement reform for 2013, with liberals already down 0-1 on Social Security
- 10 year Doc Fix at a time when the average physician salary has surpassed $200,000 and many make twice that.
- 10 year AMT fix–taking that trillion dollar upper-middle class tax break off the table for upcoming deficit talks.
As Joe Biden said, in the same debate where he promised Obama would not touch Social Security: “You’re dreaming.”
Let Bush era tax cuts expire! Throw them over the cliff!
Hands off Social Security!
Ohh….hello???? Hello????
Demorats will violate a social contract, same as rethug corpos will bleed corporations, and fuck families. Meanwhile other take pledges to tax exempt corporations with partisan political agenda placing profit before the welfare of the republic? I took a pledge to the flag and the republic every fucking day as a child. I get it
Greedy hoarding mother fuckers don’t.
The term traitor is appropriate. To think these guys who had the “balls” to set this thing called America up, did it under fear of hanging?
Greedy hoarding bastards, are the reason for the “Bill of Rights,” which the greedy hoarding bastards today, piss on daily, as I once took a pledge, daily.
Question for you all? Was the King and his East India Tea Corp and other corporate entities a bunch of greedy hoarding bastards, who did not give a rat’s ass about anything but money and power? Sound familiar? $877,000,000,000 billion dollars wasted out America’s tailpipe in two years? 80 cents of every dollar spent wasted. Now go buy more, to get to work? Abject fucking servitude by definition………
Thanks.
Hope you’re right.
We aren’t sure but its possible that the Medicare age increase is baked into the 600 billion in mandatory cuts, the age increase was about $150 billion over 10 years. The Chained CPI total is over $200 billion … that’s about $300 billion over to years from Social Security and Medicare benefits.
The revenue generated from raising rates on only those at $400,000.00 and keeping the dividend rate at 20% and lowering the estate tax rates as Obama gave away will cost $400 billion in lost revenue.
So Social Security and Medicare are most likely going to pay 75% of cost of the concessions Obama has made in latest round.
Sounds a lot like giving tax breaks to very well off on the backs of seniors and the disabled.
We are forgetting the alternate plan. The bipartisan group of legislators to call for defense cuts. Perhaps they could meet again and have their own compromise budget. It is better to have a solid slice of cheese cake than a larger fluffy glob of whip cream pie that will blow away if the currency collapses
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/437-2nd-amendment-rights/15110-the-choice-is-between-guns-and-guns-not-guns-and-butter
my.firedoglake.com/richardkanepa/
I don’t think he is bluffing.
It does not matter what Boehner wants, its what the t-baggers will go along with.
He made a deal, but can’t deliver the votes.
Now he is trying to blow up the deal rather then expose how weak he is.
it’s all about him getting himself re-elected speaker, nothing more…