For some reason, liberals are agonized by the fact that a Presidential press conference about gun safety legislation devolved into questions about the fiscal slope. As if this has never happened before, or that reporters are Constitutionally obligated to stay on topic. Or that the fisal policy of the world’s largest economy shouldn’t stay in the foreground! To be honest, this mentality, this “tuning out” of fiscal policy in favor of something with more perceived emotional weight (because the ability of a senior citizen to have a dignified retirement isn’t emotional at all, or something), represents at least part of why liberals have lost on economic policy for three decades. It just doesn’t “get them right there”, I guess.
Anyway, the President had to defend his latest offer, with its spending cuts commensurate in level with the sequester, benefit cuts to Social Security, concession on marginal tax rate increases by moving the dividing line to $400,000 a year and allowing open the opportunity for debt limit hostage taking down the road. And he basically bragged about the wise centrism of his offer. He called it the “largest piece of deficit reduction we’ve seen in the last 20 years” and said it would resolve out deficit and debt issues for the next 10 years. Because that’s how things work, right? Deficit scolds just go into hibernation once some mythical level of stabilization gets reached.
Obama basically ignored the implications of the benefit cut in Social Security, and ignored the regressive tax increase for everyone associated with the move to chained CPI. He mainly expressed puzzlement that Republicans haven’t taken his deal, since he’s gone “more than halfway” in their direction. Um, that answers his own question. If by doing next to nothing, they can watch the President give up on things he long demanded – he said he would veto anything that extended the Bush-era tax rates above $250,000, and that he would not “play the game” anymore on the debt limit – then why wouldn’t they just keep sitting still and letting the President come to them? As Paul Krugman points out:
But sure enough, it looks as if Republicans have taken the offer as a sign of weakness, as a starting point from which they can bargain Obama down. Oh, and they’re not giving up at all on the idea of using the debt ceiling for further blackmail.
In other words, all of a sudden it’s feeling a lot like 2011 again, with the president negotiating with himself while the other side enjoys the process.
Krugman actually mentions one further concession that hadn’t been reported initially – a concession on dividend taxes, only moving them to 20% rather than 35%. This looks more like a problem of Senate Democrats not willing to go up to 35%, but it just adds to the mix.
The President apparently feels guilty over weaponizing the debt limit in 2011, but if he were truly guilty, he would draw the line in the sand today rather than two years from now. The debt limit is virtually the only piece of leverage Republicans have in an agreement. On all other parts of this, they have either caved before or will cave later. The President says he won’t negotiate on the debt limit. By offering up this debt deal now, he’s actually in the process of doing that. And he’s basically setting up a debt default in 2014, or a major conflagration anyway, by not shutting this down immediately.
So I think this all counts as news regardless of what press conference it emerged from.




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Does he? Check out Mara Liasson’s tongue-bathing tribute (with an assist from Jared Bernstein) to the brilliance of Jack Lew in fashioning the 2011 deal:
What’s happening in this lame duck is exactly what the boss ordered.
Dean Baker was all over this!
“And sure enough, as Dean Baker points out, a gang of incredibly wealthy CEOs are planning to gut entitlements regardless of which candidate wins in 2012. It’s not just CEOs, of course, it’s also the usual gang of corrupt Democratic establishment folk”
http://truth-out.org/news/item/10692-obamas-second-term-agenda-cutting-social-security-medicare-and-or-medicaid
what kind of man is Obama? read and find out
great article
Perris gave it to us
need to share this with everyone!
“There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans.”
—Paul Wellstone
Paul Wellstone was talking about Dems Like OBAMA!
The idea that the GOP will refuse the raise the debt limit, with all that would mean for financial markets, is ludicrous. I mean they’ve already shown their cards as willing to print money for the banks during the financial crisis. They will do anything to protect the banks.
Krugman is inexplicably charitable toward this deal. He thinks that as long as the President gives up nothing more it will be okay. That point was passed long ago.
I saw this article when it first came out awhile back and I shared with a Dems friend of mine. My buddy called the article right wing BS and all lies. when I told him this article was written by a progressive economist he seemed lost for words…I also told him there are many on the left who think Obama sucks he seemed shocked….guess the word has not gotten out there
I am puzzled why David Dayen is defending the socialist welfare state benefits of Republicans over the age of 65 who vote for Republicans promising to end socialism and impoverish the Republicans over 65?
Sure, the Republicans over age 65 are counting on David Dayen to defend their socialist benefits while they vote Republican to get tax cuts for their kids in the hopes their kids will visit to thank them, so the get a free lunch by voting Republican.
After all, Republicans depend on David Dayen spending all his time protecting Republicans from the Republican policies they vote for, because that makes sure David Dayen is not focused on the bigger issue: making Republicans vote for tax hikes. A Republican in Congress would rather be waterboarded, have his nailed pulled out, instead of voting for a tax hike and being primaried. They agree with Grover Norquist who would throw his grandmother into the streets if he got a tax cut.
The last thing the Republicans and David Dayen want to happen is Obama gives the Republican entitlement cuts that will never last five years if only the Republicans will vote for tax hikes – Republicans want this to be all about the cuts to Social Security benefits long in the future when Republicans will reverse it to win votes from the boomers, and they love it that David Dayen supports the Republican strategy.
Thank god David Dayen wants to keep Republicans pure in never ever ever under any circumstance vote for a tax hikes but only votes for tax cuts.
Can we stop falling into their framing?
Can we just call it congress and Obama take social security and medicaire hostage in order to pay for more department of defense and war? This fight is not about an f-ing cliff. This fight is about the fact that both parties agreed that if they could not agree they would cut a bunch of stuff automatically. Now they don’t want what they all agreed on to happen. Neither party is talking about the fact that we could just cut defense. Period.
We spend twice what all other countries spend and we Can easily cut “guns” to pay for ” butter”. We can but since no party is even acknowledging this we are sitting here talking about an imaginary cliff.
This pisses me off. Dems -and GOP are exactly the same. I am sick of it. Sick to death.