Read my lips: NOTHING will happen.

Doing something would violate the New American Credo: Do NOTHING of substance. Ever.

Well, that must be a “good” thing, this “support” … right?

Let the next “culture” war commence … in, three, two, one …

Everyone watch the bright shiny things … think of them as “representing” the patriotic fireworks of “democracy” and the “free enterprise” of oppression, secret law, national “security” and a sincere celebration of the “Homeland”.

Whoop dee doo!

It is a real durn good thing that we’ve not got any serious problems, as a society or a waning, lashing-about “empire”, else those tiny issues might distract from the seriousness and solemnity of the present moment, from the “defining act”, this time, call it the “Affordable Dare Act”, of the recently reinvigorated, newly “mandated”, second “term” of (trumpet flourish, please) the Barack Obama Administration.

Hip, hip, hooray!!

Or, something like that …

Hey, you! Don’t look behind that curtain, everybody already knows the “background” around all of this kabuki is “painted” with a very broad, sage, brush, pilgrim.

Howdy, dude, this is rootin’, tootin’ time.

Amen.

;~DW

Well, the background checks are a good thing. But NOT ONE of Obama’s executive orders would have stopped Sandy Hook. Or even given us a chance to prevent it. Or any of the other school shootings.

Boxturtle’s Law: if you want a gun, you gotta see a shrink regularly. And so does anyone in your household.

Boxturtle (I just blew my chance for a Senate seat, didn’t I?)

Under the current “guidelines”, you is toast, politically, Box Turtle.

(Keep it up and it will be “open season” on turtles … I can see it all now, “Turn Turtle is Slow Food, but it comes in its own box …”

Remember when the Wall Street Wonders were wont to say, “Who shall we have for lunch today?”

Well …

Take a care, my chelonian friend, among the most ancient of reptiles, when pointing out the obvious, for lots of serious money is being spent to obscure that obviousness … and the people behind that money have neither a sense of humor nor any empathy, they are out to make a kil … um, a lot of money, and amass even more power.

DW

Why is a group of paranoid fanatics even allowed into this conversation? Do we really need people with obvious violent tendencies making recommendations about how much firepower we should be carrying around? This is a group that thinks no one should be required more than one clip per classroom. And that, by the way, is not an endorsement for smaller class sizes.

All of their arguments and rhetoric are wrapped up in violence:

Obama lit the fuse on a molotov cocktail…

This is going to be the fight of the century…

This is going to start a new revolution… (do they really think that a loose band of paranoid fanatics has any chance against a well regulated militia?)

At least one of them is making a very specific threat to start killing people.

If all that matters is how much money they’re throwing around, they need make no arguments.

Why is a group of paranoid fanatics even allowed into this conversation?

One word: MONEY!
Two words: CHA CHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another 2 words: MONEY TALKS!!!!!!!!
Another 2 cents worth: Got it?

I apologize profusely for the superficiality of this post. It’s not my habit. However, this guy makes way too much money to wear a toupee that bad.

Next step: “we supported background checks, now you want more; no way!”

The NRA is pushing for measures that would keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, until a person gets better.

Your medical records will be opened to the govt. Mandatory mental health testing for all next step.

Executive Order #24 – The President shall not authorize and Congress shall not fund any drone attacks on “suspected” terrorists.

Make sure dangerous people are prohibited from having guns:
The background check system is designed to keep guns out of the hands of those forbidden by law to have them. But we need to make sure our laws are effective at identifying the dangerous or untrustworthy individuals that should not have access to guns.

Wonder what the criteria will morph into for what identifies you as untrustworthy?

Those who say “it wouldn’t have stopped Sandy Hook” may be right. But “fighting the last attack” is why TSA scours my anus for any sharp pieces of undigested food. Better background checks might prevent some as yet unplanned *next* attack.

The NRA is only getting on board so they can limit the scope of the actual checks that get done.

Your response is fine if by referring to money you mean the NRA has a large treasury. However, some comments lately have suggested that it owes its influence to backing by the gun industry per se. Admittedly without having crunched any numbers, I doubt if small arms manufacturers (as opposed to large weapons folks like Lockheed Martin) form enough of a share of the U. S. economy to explain the NRA’s clout.

It is nicely anti-capitalist to think of big business as running everything, but Marx also pointed out that ideas become a material force when they are taken up by the masses. Since the 1977 Cincinnati revolution, when the hardcore took over from the game hunters the organization likes to project as its base, the NRA has been able to recruit an appreciable number of the type of conservative who cannot deal with the fact that the world is no longer what was taught in the little red school house. Such people grow more anxious in difficult economic times, so that that portion of the organization’s base gets more militant.

This is why the group is as dangerous as Backlit@5, to whom you are responding, points out.

NRA,like the Unions, also has a GOTV element to it’s power that goes beyond its actual membership doesn’t it? That is why IMO the 1% co-opts these wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage as well.

The gun show loophole is a big one to close, but it won’t stop the mayhem building out here.

Agreed, at least as to GOTV. There are probably a lot of people on the right who are secret admirers of Wayne LaPierre and his ilk, and who for one reason or another can’t be public about it, but can go whole hog in the privacy of the voting booth.

“The NRA is pushing for measures that would keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, until a person gets better.”

This was pretty much the story line on NPR news today. It was immediately followed by a story of the US soldier in Afghanistan who went nuts and shot up 16 sleeping Afghan civilians.

So that leaves the question of how do you determine someone who is too mentally ill to be trusted with a gun, if the US military (who has these folks 24/7) cannot figure it out.

[For the record - the locals say it was more than one guy shooting and I totally believe the locals over the US military every time.]

So that leaves the question of how do you determine someone who is too mentally ill to be trusted with a gun, if the US military (who has these folks 24/7) cannot figure it out.

Here is Obama Admins suggested litmus test to determine UNtrustworthy people…
1. Have you ever attended a protest where others wore anonymous masks?
2. Are you registered to vote third party (any third party)?
3. Do you own or have you read any books by Julian Assange, Muhammed Unus or Naomi Klein?

Thank you. I appreciate your informed response and mostly agree with you. I also agree that I was being overly simplistic, but then again, generally what I said – Money Talks – end up be very true in most cases.

I disagree that BigGun & BigAmmo don’t have a powerful and big purse with which to buy off Congress and/or whomever necessary. The NRA is but the public face of a lot of very powerful private forces, most them very interested in making money. EVERY. TIME. there is a mass gun killing, the sales of guns and ammo skyrocket across the country. EVERY. TIME.

Tell me that there’s not MONEY & greed behind these pushes to never do anything about gun and ammo regulations. Sure, there are other “forces” involved, but money & greed play a huge role. That’s my opinion, of course.

Yes. For sure. The wedge issues tend to GOTV, but one does have to wonder how far this is going to take them these days.

I no longer belong to any party bc they’re all corrupt, esp the Big Two.

That said, in this last election – even with insane gerrymandering – we saw how the anti-women/anti-abortion at all costs crowd is starting to lose ground with the GOTV idea. Same goes with the anti-tehGheyz wedge issues. I could be wrong, but I think the gun-nut-fetishist GOTV issue is also losing ground.

Time will tell, of course.

I don’t know where you are coming from. IN TEXAS we already HAVE a question on Texas gun applications that asks:

1) Are you a convited felon?
2) Are you now or have you ever been insane?

All we needt to do is add:
3) Are you a terrorists and are you plannin to use this gun to kill:
a. More than two people b. More than six people c. Eleven or more

What else do you want? /s

Boy you got THAT right. We have a major gun show in Houston at least once a month.