Those who make peaceful change impossible…

Thank you, Anonymous!

Good for them. They’re like the Robin Hoods of our age.

Anonymous also distributed encrypted government files and left a statement on the website that de-encryption keys would be publicly released if the government did not comply with Anonymous’ demands for legal reform.

if those are embarassing documents, the claim would have been far more effective if they made that statement where nobody but those who could get it to the right person would see it

I am wondering, it’s seems likely to me anonymous uses electronic transfer of information between themselves to discuss targets, I am wondering why the government hasn’t already tracked that transfer

I am wondering also if they took official credit supposedly thwarting the carl rove plot to rig the election, and if so, why they havn’t released the information to put carl behind bars

Depends on which Anon cell did this. Different cells have different methods of dealing with this.

Pigs like KKKarl Rove have a Get Out of Jail Pass into perpetuity.

If exposing war crimes results in no action, exposing fraud has had no effect on new Bankster fraud, why would Anonymous think this action would have any effect on the Justice Dept. or the Admin. ?

What would you prefer?

Violent action?

Anonymous are committing the greatest crime of all. Embarrassing the powerful.

No not violence but can the shameless be shamed? It doesn’t seem so is what I’m saying

Interesting question. At least anonymous is trying to take meaningful action. Of course, half of the Country believes that they are “Cyber-terrorists”, and those citizens are fully supportive of the US Govt’s ongoing efforts to militarize and control Internet content.

Well, I don’t see a whole a raft of legislation meeting their demands as too likely, so I guess we will read the de-encrypted files. This would seem to be a watershed moment as to whether Anonymous are as formidable as they make themselves out to be.

The grandiose, Galactus-Devourer-of-Worlds tone isn’t to my taste regardless, but since Anonymous have gone that route, they better really have something that will cause DoJ some discomfort or they’re just going to look ridiculous.

That is my thought, the Motu and PTB seem more affected by inconveniences (like the noise from Zucotti or protestors on the bridge delaying their commute) than embarrassing exposure of their corrupt and avaricious behavior. Maybe if Anon was to hack their blackberries and screw up their dinner reservations they would get better results.

Well put.

For example, the Amgen giveaway in the “fiscal cliff” resolution has been getting a fair amount of publicity as these things go, but how much productive discomfort will that really cause the kleptocracy?

I’m pretty sure you could have more impact by developing a system that reliably scrambles the golf tee time reservations for the whole Inside-the-Beltway class, and then confidently issuing your demands.

I interpret the ambiguous Anonymous statement as implying that their information is less in the way of leak-worthy information of real public interest, and more in the way of stuff people in DoJ or other relevant power positions simply wouldn’t want out there.

What could that be? I have no idea, and there are too many variables to even make a guess about the effectiveness, ethics, etc. of releasing this information.

But since the U.S. government isn’t going to re-invent the whole “justice” system in response to this hack, it looks like we’re going to have the opportunity to address those questions.

The credit for thwarting Karl’s election theft goes to the people, who rather than accept the MSM’s propaganda campaign to convince us the election was ‘too close to call’, surged to the polls to prove them wrong, and in doing so, prevented the intended close margin which would have enabled Karl’s hackers to move the votes.

Karl’s election hack requires a close enough margin to hide the vote theft, if the actual margin is too great he risks blowing his cover and exposing the whole mess.

While we’re talking about the Republican hacking of the vote, we must note that without the MSM’s help in setting up the public’s expectation that the race was ‘too close to call’, the hack wouldn’t work properly.

The whole of the MSM worked very hard in the final weeks leading up to the election to discredit Nate Silver’s numbers and promote any, and all polling that reinforced the narrow margin required to enable Karl to work his magic.

I would like to think Anon does have something that will make DoInjustice stand up and quiver.
I only hope they won’t become ineffective by not releasing said information…

True but the propaganda machine that is our Fourth Estate got the other guy elected and he was their first choice anyway.

Maybe KK-Karl forgot who ‘really’ runs things?

It could be that he was under the impression that he was in control, and would be the one to decide if and when to give the go-ahead to implement the hack, but to his surprise, the MOTU decided it wasn’t to be ‘his night’?

That might explain his melt-down on FOX when they called the election for Obama?

It is quite funny to think that Karl’s bosses might not let him in on the joke, and that they actually decided that zero was the better bet.

Calling the election while he was on the air could be seen as putting him in his place, and on live television no less!

You don’t tell your servants everything and KKKarl is a servant who is highly paid to keep the D vs. R kabuki show going strong. I look at Obama and Rove as basically being paid by the same people and that is what scares me.

These folks at ZDnet seem to have some good guesses.

And this news about the five-fold increase in cybersecurity hires is interesting as well. ;D

(I did a post about this a couple days ago.)

Right after the election anti-hack announcement, I ran Annon’s statement past a person I know who does the same stuff for Big Brother Uncle Sam off and on.

There are several posts around deciphering the slang they used; it was an accurate and succinct description of the methodology the treasonous repugs were using and the password attempts were actual attempts to activate the system.

There was no decision not to use it, Annon put a firewall into KKKarl’s hack and blocked it’s use. Then they monitored the number of password attempts that were tried to activate the system.

Also included in the announcement was the reason they did not try to prove the crime: the fact that they hacked the system to disable it, destroyed the evidence (how could we prove it wasn’t Annon but KKKarl that put it in?) If they left it alone and exposed KKKarl, the election would have gone to the repugs and the evidence would have be scrubbed anyway.

They said in the announcement that was a decision they made.

Thank you. I’ll check those links out.

A propos of nothing really, but whenever I see those Guy Fawks masks these days, I want to remind people that in the original Alan Moore comic, as opposed to the film, V starts out by blowing up the Houses of Parliament, and then he gets down to serious business of smashing the system.

The moral being: it’s not gonna be easy.

IIRC, I read somewhere that the anon who claimed to have the goods on Rove was a hoaxer.

You see what I see.

Thank you for the history, kapock; soooo educational. I know almost nothing about any of this. I just posted it as a PSA, and because I find it all fascinating.

Some anonymous made one for Stephen Harper’s c-45 in support of the Indigenous movement in Canada, as well. It was a pip.

That is my thought, the Motu and PTB seem more affected by inconveniences (like the noise from Zucotti or protestors on the bridge delaying their commute) than embarrassing exposure of their corrupt and avaricious behavior. Maybe if Anon was to hack their blackberries and screw up their dinner reservations they would get better results.

LOL, that’s genius.

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