The Department of Defense recently announced a formal change in policy allowing women to serve in combat positions. The announcement was somewhat symbolic given the changing nature of warfare and the role women already play in current military operations.
Women are serving and have been serving in uniform alongside their male counterparts in Afghanistan and did so in Iraq for much of the past decade, even as their theoretical fitness to serve was debated back home. Although officially in support roles, the distinction ultimately made little difference to the 152 female U.S. troops who have died while deployed in those two wars.
Not content to allow any policy change that has even a tangential connection to the culture wars pass without comment, conservatives are now throwing a fit with Jonah Goldberg opining on biology.
It is a common habit of many liberals and self-avowed centrists to preen about how they don’t deny science and evolution the way conservatives do. Ironically, on this issue, it is the opponents of women in combat invoking the scientific data that confirm a fairly obvious evolutionary fact: Men and women are different. For instance, at their physical peak, “the average woman has the aerobic capacity of a 50-year-old male,” notes Mackubin Thomas Owens in a powerfully empirical article in the Weekly Standard.
Another evolutionary fact is that men act different when around women. This creates challenges for unit cohesion and fighting effectiveness.
Putting aside that men and women already serve together and the physically challenged argument is pretty meaningless as women will still have to pass the same fitness requirements as their male counterparts to be qualified to serve in combat positions – who cares? Goldberg himself admits no one.
Absent any informed debate, polls support the idea. Indeed, the Republican Party has been shockingly restrained in even questioning what is a vastly bigger deal than the lifting of the half-ban on gays in the military — “don’t ask, don’t tell.” The mainstream media have celebrated the milestone and largely yawned at the skeptics.
No one cares. As long as Americans can stay above and away from the fray they do not care who does the dying – the poor, gays, women. On the one hand it is tragic that Americans are so apathetic about the suffering of the troops yet on the other hand it provides opportunities for those who want social progress within the military to gain ground. The Pentagon is happy to go along for now, beggars can’t be choosers.
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Also, in the Army, somewhat important, since major combat MOS’s [Military Occupational Specialty] have been closed to females, and will be closed until the Army can devise and approve specific physical standards for the closed MOS’s, including: 11 Infantry, 13B Cannon Crewmember, 13D Field Artillery Automated, 13F Fire Support Specialist, 18 Special Forces, 19 Armor, 21B/12B Combat Engineer, 180A Special Forces Warrant.
Dying in combat doesn’t make one a combat soldier. It’s a bit more complicated.
To determine which women are eligible, the Army will develop a series of tests to determine whether soldiers have the physical ability to do the tasks associated with specific combat related jobs, such as lifting an artillery round. Once the standard is established, both men and women will have to pass the test.
Touche. That’s why I added the ‘somewhat.’ I think the public needs to know that women are in combat zones doing jobs that put them in combat such as helicopter pilots.
But yes, you are correct, this is a genuine policy change.
We have truly achieved gender equality in America! Women will now have the opportunity to get maimed and killed in useless wars for Israel and Big Oil.
Well said don.
I’m not saying I necessarilly “like it”. But if women can do the job then women can do the job.
Really doesn;t sound like a good thing when you put it that way.
That Leon, quite a guy.
DSW – another fine article. You’re doing such a good job!!!
Maybe the US military can scan the brains of females at birth like they are doing with puppy dogs. to see if they are fit to be soldiers.
I don’t think this is a good change. . .
1) Women entered the military with the idea that they would not be in a combat role, now to change that midstream seems very unfair to them.
2) If you allow women to decide if they want a combat role, that’s also unfair, but this time to the guys that are in that role, because they volunteered thinking it was a all male fighting force.
3) On a different note. Pregnancy is on the rise in the military. Which exposes a very real difference in the sexes.
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Just wondering if there’s any speculation from anywhere about this possibly affecting efforts to curb assaults on women in the military. It’s such a horrendous shame and not getting the attention it deserves, as far as I can tell.
I happen to agree with Lt. Gen. Janet Karpinski, that the combat classifications should be made retroactive to cover all the women who have served in combat roles while being “attached” to combat units, and who have been killed or wounded while so serving or have fulfilled all their duties while “attached” to these combat units.
She pointed out that this “attachment” to the combat units was a fancy way of getting women “assigned” to combat without them receiving combat pay, and all the official recognition in their military records that would allow them to advance through the ranks like their male counterparts. The women who were “attached” performed all the same duties, carried out the same missions, and were in some cases wounded and died doing those jobs. And they deserve the same recognition – retroactively to the beginning of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars since this has been going on.
Possibly with women actually being a part of the unit instead of merely “attached” to it (kind of like an afterthought) there will actually be more of that unit cohesion everyone is so fond of talking about. “Attachment” carries a stigma – you are not really part of the unit. You are less than – not as good as, and therefore not as valuable in the eyes of your supposed peers and apparently not in the eyes of the chain of command either.
Once women are accepted as actual members of the unit by passing all the same requirements – their value will be enhanced and hopefully this will be less of a problem.
It’s all the little things that are discriminatory – they don’t seem to be much each on their own – but they add up to big stuff. In this case – rape, with no justice. A small change like assignment instead of attachment could make all the difference.
Speaking as a veteran of 12 years I’ve seen men flunk physical standards just as readily as women. And what about these standards as it relates to age? Or are people going to try to convince me that 50 year old men are just as capable of the physical aspect as 20 year olds for the length of their time as (fill in the blank with whatever whiny ass group of men is whining because they want their field to be a boys club where they can read their girlie mags in peace)? Are we going to start retraining people when they hit their thirties? Quite frankly, the physical standards issue has always been a reason for the men to whine though. It’s not faaaaaaaaairrrrrrrr. How come she doesn’t have to do as many push ups as me? Blah, blah, blah.
What the military didn’t point out in their press release is the reason this came about is the same reason that women are now allowed to serve on submarines- women who actually have been serving got tired of being shafted and sued the DoD because they realized they were being shafted.
When you join the military you do so understanding that you’ll be forced to adapt and that your needs, feelings or wants are secondary to whatever mission they assign you. If they can’t then the military will and should show them the door. That applies to both the men and women who chose to enter into an organization that requires you to “sacrifice.”
Can’t say I feel sorry for a woman who entered the DoD thinking that she was going to be crocheting while the boys did the heavy work or for the guys who are all sorts of bummed that their favorite boys club is going to be positively ruined because they are allowing girls(How much you wanna bet these are the same guys treating combat like it is a bleeping video game and peeing on corpses.) In a war zone there is little to no room for a bunch of babies, so I’d just as soon these folks went bye bye anyway and leave the job to people who actually want to behave like professionals. Our military force would be better off as a result of it.
This ignores the lies of unscrupulous recruiters. Many children join the military to get money for higher ed, unaware of the strings attached and not truly mature or aware enough to make such a heavy decision. Others are pushed into joining by the parents, for a variety of reasons.
Just last week, I believe I talked a high school sophomore out of enlisting. She told me her parents wanted her to join up. I asked her what she really wanted to do (with her life), and she told me she liked art. I encouraged her to pursue art rather than the military due to the lack of artistic opportunities being a grunt on some tarmac in Nebraska breathing in Stealth exhaust or launching drones from some game monitor in a dusty and forlorn Nevada bunker. I also explained to her the prevalence of sexual assault and violence in todays military and lack of accountability for rapists and put her in touch with a women vet.
I would feel sorry for any woman entering todays military. They do not know what they are getting into.
Speaking to the question of “Are women the physical equals of men?” I think my cross-country track team in high school is a fairly representative model. We had about 20-25 people on it. It was a mixed-gender team. Generally, the males were faster, but there was one female who could keep up and who consistently finished in the top five runners. My experience during my time in the Navy (1991-2001 as a PN3) showed that women were entirely capable of doing what we men did. Of course, the Navy and the Air Force are both technical services where we don’t fight in the same way that the Army and Marines do. Still, the women could keep up.
But yeah, to answer Jonah Goldberg, I think there are fewer women per 100 people who can meet the physical requirements than the men do, but such women very clearly do exist and are entitled to the same opportunities that men get. No, progressives are not “ignoring” biology at all.
And we haven’t had real front lines in warfare since Korea (Ended in 1953, 60 years ago) and even then, there were a few instances during World War II when cooks and truck drivers had to be issued rifles so that they could go toe-to-toe with the enemy.
A “child” can not join the military without the permission of an adult. A young adult can and often does weigh the benefits versus the risks of joining. It IS a sad commentary that for some the best hope for making it up the next economic rung is to risk your life but that is the reality for many of us not born into the Romney or Hilton households.
I’m surprised that Jonah isn’t equally concerned about the poor women who are going to have to work with men who may not be be as capable as women when it comes to shooting.
The irony is that when it comes to shooting ability it’s the female gender that has an advantage. However, I doubt you’ll hear people like Jonah point this out. Why? It diminishes the narrative that men have an advantage in combat.
And as I pointed out the other day, anyone who thinks you need to be large to kick butt might want to visit Thailand and watch a Thai kickboxer kick the crud out of people often twice their size.
Why isn’t anyone concerned about the fact that one in three women is sexually assaulted in the US military. The DOD has admitted that it’s about 50 woman a day.
The fact the we can’t fix the problem, that has continued to escalate, why are we making a bigger deal about them being in combat.
This was a PR move to distract us from the issue of sexual assault.
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What a load of crap. You can ignore what recruiters do and say. I do not. They go after children. They lie and they fool children to join through DEP, and give them all sorts of free toys and gizmos. And the video games and movie tie-ins like Transformers are directed at children. As I said, kids are often pushed to join by their parents, for a variety of reasons.
Both your objections are very easily met by giving people who joined before the change options and applying the news rules only to people who join after adoption of the new rules.
However, all of the above is mooted by some realty.
1. The all volunteer military simply does not produce enough troops for all the niceties to be cut so finely.
2. The troops we have are needed in, and sent to, areas where the whole country is a potential combat zone. That has been the case in most of our wars since Korea. The ability to neatly define which is a combat area and which isn’t anymore is a myth.
3. Women have been in combat areas probably since the first war ever fought anywhere on the planet. We just pretent otherwise so that we can pay them differently and make fewer of them generals.
It’s hilarious.
If you want to sell someone a share of stock, you have to hand them a disclosure document that is long and detailed enough for the phone book of New York City and scary enough for a horror movie.
But no uniform disclosure standards are set for the U.S. military, where your life is on the line once you join.
We are a bunch of dishonest hypocrites, we are.