
“Everyday I become more convinced, there is no doubt in my mind, as many intellectuals have said, that it is necessary to transcend capitalism. But capitalism can not be transcended through capitalism itself; it must be done through socialism, true socialism, with equality and justice. I’m also convinced that it is possible to do it under democracy, but not in the type of democracy being imposed by Washington.”
– Hugo Chavez
Hugo Chavez’s struggle to bring his true socialism of equality and justice ended yesterday as he finally succumbed to cancer. His life of substance, of passion, and the fight for justice will live on and reverberate through the ages.
Critics will not surprisingly point to the failure of President Chavez to live up to his own standards at times. A critique always worth hearing for any chief executive. Media crackdowns, overheated rhetoric, authoritative tendencies – it’s all true. Like many great American presidents be it Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus, Roosevelt’s internment of Japanese Americans, or Obama’s kill list - Chavez overreached in the heat of political combat. But to measure the presidency of Hugo Chavez solely with a catalog of mistakes and failings would be as much a disservice to history as it would be to measure any president that way. Chavez was more than his failures.
Pre-Chavez Venezuela would not be so unfamiliar to Americans. It resembled the American South under Jim Crowe and Apartheid South Africa. A small racial aristocracy of White Spanish descendants controlled the politics and economic destiny for the overwhelming majority of poor Venezuelans who were and are of mixed race – like Chavez. The elite of Venezuela were closer to the United States than to their own people with most having second homes in Miami where they would enjoy the fruits of their non-labor living lavish lifestyles with their petrodollars. They were not innovators or entrepreneurs or captains of industry or savvy investors or shrewd businesspeople – they were oil barons who inherited their money and social position. As meritocratic and deserving of power as King George III. In other words, the ultimate takers.
When Hugo Chavez was elected President many of the kleptocratic elite fled the country like looters leaving a crime scene. They feared violent retribution for generations of oppression and malevolence – none came. Instead President Chavez focused on doing what he had pledged to do – help Venezuela’s poor. In a country fabulously wealthy from oil the masses of Venezuela rotted in slums and grinding poverty. Chavez would lead one of the most effective anti-poverty programs in world history. By the time Chavez was done the percentage of Venezuelans living under the poverty line declined from a peak of 62% in 2003 to 29% in 2009. In the six-year period between 2001 and 2007, illiteracy fell from 7% to 5%.
Combine redistributing the ill-gotten gains from the US aligned elites with shouting anti-imperialist rhetoric on top of a large oil reserve and surprise surprise President Chavez became America’s public enemy number one. The US corporate media cued up phrases like “dictactor”, “autocrat”, and all the rest of the standard phrasing to use when a foreign head of state bucks the empire. The fact that President Chavez was elected in third party certified free elections was irrelevant, he did not meet the American government’s view of democracy which was shorthand for doing what America says when America says it.
And so Washington launched a coup in 2002.
Unfortunately for the multinational oil interests, racial aristocrats, and American imperialists the coup failed due to the masses of Venezuela coming out in force to demand their democratically elected President be reinstated. Look for that story in the American press or among the reactionaries now cheering Chavez’s death, you won’t find it.
After the failed coup attempt by America and the old racial oligarchs a public campaign was launched in the American media to demonize Chavez with pretty ridiculous comparisons to Stalin and Hitler (ring a bell?). It was all unsubstantiated garbage but most Americans had no alternative view and either accepted it or ignored it like most news, even when some men of God called for President Chavez to be killed. Thus we now see upon Hugo Chavez’s death various people vomit out discredited views of President Chavez pumped into their brains by a corporate media and government that had the most to lose from democracy in Venezuela. And still do.
But let’s not put it all on the reactionaries, Hugo Chavez delighted in irritating Washington especially after they tried to kill him. His speeches at the UN and proudly paling around with America’s enemies was an over the top thumb in America’s eye. It ingratiated him to the anti-imperialist world community but diminished any chance at rapprochement with Washington – which may have always been illusory given their fundamental differences but was at least worth a try. Then again, can you blame him for having some fun with his would be assassins?
Regardless of the truth and what came before, the legacy of Hugo Chavez is destined to be a disputed one. Perhaps years from now (many years) there can be a consensus accepting all the good he did for the poor and the necessity of breaking the racial aristocracy the people of Venezuela were enslaved by. Until then he will live on in those striving for justice, those carrying a new world in their hearts.





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There was a downside to Hugo Chavez’s rule as well. From rising crime, http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/10/2012101817912697153.html
To a shrinking economy, http://marketmonetarist.com/2013/03/06/hugo-chavezs-economic-legacy-the-two-graph-version/
Lets not forget Free Healthcare! If a South American country can afford it why can’t we?
Being a friend to the poor, one necessarily becomes the enemy of the wealthy; the wealthy will have it no other way. And they will spend their wealth to create propaganda mills under benevolent, even protective titles like Criminal Justice International Associates to maintain the status quo of the financial elite in the region and spread vicious rumors against those who try to help the downtrodden. Now that the cat is dead, the rats will proclaim how terrible a menace the cat was, while redoubling their efforts to quash any further rehabilitation; and the US government, populated and controlled by those moneyed interests, will use their propaganda to denounce the fallen champion of the poor and seek to resume its rapacious and oppressive activities in Venezuela and throughout South and Central America.
As for calling George W. Bush the Devil, we know him to be only one of the demon horde.
With Hugo gone will who ever the new President be keep America supplied with oil if we or Israel attack Iran?
Hugo was Iran’s ally if we or Israel attacked Iran Hugo would have cut off our oil. Hugo’s death means we don’t know what the new President of Venezuela will do.
Also without Hugo standing tall will the CIA send in the death squads to support Right Wing Pro American governments again? When Nixon – Reagan did it South America’s economy dropped like a stone
despitebecause Milton Friedman Chicago School economic *cough* Wizards tried to create a Free Market Paradise.“Political polarisation [sic] [between supporters and opponents of the Chavez government], institutional impunity among the police, justice system and inside prisons, a massive circulation of weapons, poor illumination in public areas, alcohol consumption, drug trafficking and organised [sic] crime,” are all responsible, Cedeno, the sociologist, told Al Jazeera.
Sounds pretty familiar.
Ah, so Obama is a great President who assassinate citizens, but his assassination policy isn’t really his fault due to politics. I don’t see why brining up Obama’s assassinations has to do with Chavez, except that you’re comparing Chavez’s leadership to Obama’s, which I’d say that makes Chavez look worse rather than better.
Two sides to that story and those stats….
From Venezuelannews.com….
When I spoke with Julio Cesar Velasco, the former civil boss of a poor barrio in central Caracas, he reaffirmed Marquez’ remarks: “Before President Chavez the media reported one of every hundred killings.” However, now he argues, “the media reports every killing a hundred times.”
Yet one NGO, the “Venezuelan Observatory of Violence” (OVV) claims to use media as a method to generate statistics. Numbers published by the OVV, which is run by a right-wing opposition member, Roberto Briceño León, are widely quoted in numerous articles including the New York Times and Wall Street Journal. Strangely both articles were printed this month even though Reuters reported the same statistics in March of this year.[3]
Another report published in 2008 by Foreign Policy magazine claimed that according to “official” statistics, Caracas was one of the “Murder capitals of the World”. Mary O’Grady of the Wall Street Journal also quotes supposed “leaked” official reports in a piece published last week. Both articles fail to offer an explanation as how they obtained statistics that were not published and showed no investigation into their validity.
David Ferry and Jack Ruby died (or were murdered)with cancer too.
Chavez death is a sad day. Now, the country will have to collapse with someone else in charge.
It always takes a while, but, eventually, it happens.
Just for some perspective, crime, particularly opportunistic armed robberies, were pervasive before Chavez was elected. Street crime may have risen during his presidency, but it was already an everyday fact of life. And he reduced crime of the kleptocratic variety.
On edit, reading @8, maybe street crime hasn’t risen.
X2
They probably didn’t count Perez’ death squads, either.
We may be on the same trajectory. Even sadder.
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
An increase in the homicide rate of maybe 50% could be miscalculated or manipulated, but 400%? No.
Even Human Rights Watch documented the repression and problems.
Wow!!! You ask more questions than my 5 year old niece.
Can I get back to you on this????
Or, much to the consternation of the U.S. state-media complex that has brainwashed you, as Mark Weisbrot wrote recently:
I don’t know about that. Will they have an “election”? will they have a real election? Will there be a military coup? Will there be civil unrest followed by a popular leader taking control?
Not completely OT Rand Paul is filibustering Brennans nomination to CIA. He has some support and I’m struck that a tea party Senator has the balls to demand answers about drone kill policy.
I Know this is a little “off the wall” BUT, Venezuela has one of the best Miss UNiverse organizations in the world. Next to the USA,Venezuale has had more Miss Universe’s than an y other country. I’ve watched their national pageantds on Telemundo. Very professional verty well done and they gots lots of hot women there.
Let the MissUNierse organizing committee run the country.
Just a thought.
What????
democracynow had a good panel on Chavez this morning. There was one Chavez skeptic who pointed out crime & inflation, but unlike some of the comments on this thread, he did it in a more balanced way and other panelists put them in context.
“You just keep thinking Butch, that’s what yer good at”
You may be right. Sure looks that way as of late. When can we expect the rampant promiscuity and massive sex orgies that befell the Roman Empire???
You know me, I’m a “silver lining” kinda guy.
Very interesting I suspect the stats are funny how can the murder rate increase but life expectancy increase at the same time?
Sure I got to leave soon But I will check back for your reply:)
Seriously, I haven’t really followed this. Are we to believe he was really a benevolent dictator???
Much obliged. Missed you guys. Was sick for a while. Good to be back.
Lies, damned lies and statistics, right?
I do not know if Chavez was a good man or a bad man as many choose to characterize him as. I suspect the truth was somewhere in between the two, like most of us. I will say this though. For thousands of Americans who lived in poverty his program to provide low cost oil was a God send. And for that alone I can wish that the man gets to rest in peace.
Fabricated statistics and phony investigations with nebulous results???????
Wow. I’m having a real “deja vu” moment all over again. Yogi Berra
You really BUY that?
If it was one thing, maybe. but, it is thing after thing after thing.
Good points. Thanks. Friend of mine from there expressed the same sentiments.
Dictator = leader of a country who disobeys his/her rightful masters in Washington, never mind how popular at home or how often re-elected.
Listen & make up your own mind.
As far as opposing Commies go America has certainly showed they have lied in the past. 2 countries Cuba and Venezuela offer their people free healthcare.
America the richest country in the world does not. So of course the commies must be discredited!
FWIW, U.S. was weaponizing cancer as long ago as the 1960s.
I have not been here much these last few months either but its good to talk to everyone here out of all the blogs FDL I think has the best discussion’s among the commenters.
In Venezuela under Chavez, the number in poverty has been cut by fifty per cent. The number in extreme poverty has been cut by seventy per cent. The poor have access to education and health care.
With Chavez at the beginning, socially responsible regimes are the new norm in South America.
The plutocrats are certain to see, if they can that, no matter what of these truths start a commentary on Chavez, the commentary ends with slurs.
Chavez was democratically elected three times, the last time at 54%, his smallest margin but still a clear triumph.
The opposition did not claim electoral irregularities and conceded graciously.
Meanwhile in this country we have voter suppression if not outright rigging of elections, economic inequality at an all time high and poverty very much on the rise.
Plus a regime that claims the right to assassinate anyone they please, anywhere in the world. Including their own citizens in their own country.
I ask you, which nation is doing better for its citizens?
And CIA tried to give Castro cancer among there other attempts to kill him.
Link Please I don’t doubt you but still Hugo has the best Cuban security and the Cuban’s have Kept Fidel alive for decades despite several CIA attempts to kill him.
If the CIA got Hugo they either got someone close to him working for him someone very close or they got some new long range tech.
I am not sure what is worse.
But Exxon/Mobil and Standard Oil didn’t get their fair share so obviously Chavez fell short on helping the uber wealthy of the world./s
Things oft do follow after other things; that is the sad truth. Fortunately there are good men out there willing to do something about it.
I’ll bet most people thought CIA when they first heard Chavez had cancer. I did.
So did I
I had noticed your absence. Sometimes this (FDL) is all that keeps me sane.
He was the intended victim.
Made me wonder about Arafat. His body was exhumed over 3 months ago & no results yet. I didn’t think it was polonium bc his deterioration didn’t look like Litvenko’s.
Chavez’s deterioration & Arafat’s looked more similar, from the little they showed outsiders.
If it is weaponized cancer, then it might be indistinguishable from ‘naturally’ occurring disease.
I feel it is certainly within ghe CIA’s capabilities to take three years to assasinate somebody. :-)
A lot of good things are happening or trying to but in the mean time there’s nothing good happening in North Amerika neo-conns/oil corp. try to stop the little people advancement. Sounds like another place I know;)
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/03/us-plots-conquest-of-venezuela-in-wake.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/03/06/the-chavez-legacy/
Book.
Author interview.
I just ran into these today. Don’t know anything about author or interviewer, ao take it fwiw.
OTOH, you all might be giving the CIA more credit than they deserve.
About the crime – here’s a pretty good analysis if you have the time
http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4338
Thanks :)
Heh, I pasted the landestroyer article on a couple of threads. Amazing how they publish their plans in advance by can’t get almost anyone in the U.S. to take seriously what they say.
The main point might be that Venezuelans should decide what’s best for Venezuela not Exxon/Mobil or other Imperialist multi-national corporations. Maybe if we let Venezuelans decide by majority vote what direction they want to go we could call it a true democracy and follow their example. If majority ruled in Amerika this thread wouldn’t exist.
In China, using capitalistic methods, hundreds of millions have been propelled out a poverty you can’t imagine. Perfect, no, but you have not idea where they came from.
20 years ago, I was walking down the street there, and saw something up ahead that I could not believe I was seeing. My eyes could not possibly bee seeing it.
A man, with no arms and legs, was on the sidewalk literally pounding his head against the sidewalk bloody, trying to get passersby to feel sympathy and to give him some money.
THAT’s how bad it was. Just bleak, bleak, bleak. And, not just people who were disabled. Venezuela’s peasants lived like kings in comparison.
That’s what 50 years of people like Chavez did to the “people.” Now, I never see anything like this. There are some people who might work long hours, but, on the whole, FAR better than they used to be. And, soon, up the line, will be doing far better than any peasant or middle class person in Venezuela.
Geez. A guy dodges murder attempts and coups, year after year, from the gov’t of the people who comment here about how bad ” their ” gov’t is: and he can’t even get a break from some whiners. Hugo would say, ” the elites would complain if they were hung with a brand new rope. ” I’ll never forget that the International AFL-CIO, under Lane Kirkland, was cited for trying to help murder this man. So much for the ” solidarity ” arguments from the unions. They, and most Americans, especially liberals, don’t know what a soft revolution looks like. Will this somehow be illegal according to the artificial constructs about my idea of ” fair “? Will some people get taken out to the woods and be shot for their past crimes? Oh, that sounds so messy, and all. Can’t we do it the nice way? You know, where everyone lives happily ever after? ( Will Hugo marry Donna Reed or Mary Tyler Moore in the afterlife, inquiring minds want to know? ) Even though, if we showed their collective guilty acts on American TeeVee people would puke on their Berber carpets. Hugo was a Super Nova among a bunch of 20 watt bulbs, here and abroad. Of course, if you’d never lived in 3rd world conditions and Cabo is roughing it, how would you know? And, that’s just where they want to keep you. Vaya con Dios, Hugo. ” What does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and, lose his soul?
An article nearly devoid of facts. A lot of denunciation of other reports, but no real facts and figures except what the government released. And, even those show a marked crime increase.
Maybe English is a second language for you?
Analysis
You are proving your bias. Again. cregan. It’s been awhile since you’ve trolled here.
The article admits that there has been an increase in crime, but delves deeper into the subject than Fox News, and that seems to be a problem for you. They name their sources, but somehow you seem to have a mental block about that.
Maybe you should calm down, and read it again
WOW. Well maybe Rand Paul is actually good for something. Stuck clock and all that.
I would love to see the Brennan nom. kyboshed. I figured since Brennan was the Torturer in Chief, he’d be in like Flynn. I still figure Brennan’s a lock on this, but I’ll give kudos where deserved. Good for Rand Paul on this score.
If Fox fanatics go crazy against O on this it might kill the nomination. Weird to be watching cspan2 again. Haven’t watched it since the ACA passed and my health insurance premiums doubled. :)
I was not there, but I suspect people in China were even worse off than what you saw 20 years ago before the “people like Chavez” came along. I don’t know why you seem to disbelieve that on the whole life also improved in Venezuela under him, but that seems to be the consensus of thoughtful observers.
Subsistence farmers are classified as living in poverty but have lived as farmers for many generations. Statistics are lies when you hear them from Amerika.
I read somewhere today that a number of other South/Central American leaders have cancer, but I don’t have the time to check that out.
I always figured that the CIA had ways and ways to make things happen, and not quite as clumsily as Vlad the Putin did with Litvenko.
One does wonder.
Chavez was flawed & imperfect, but he fought BigOIL and nationalized his Oil field and reserves. The 1% couldn’t stand it. And the rest, as they say, is history.
Dream on.
Talk to the workers at FoxConn. Oh that’s right: you can’t because many of them have committed suicide being forced into slave labor conditions in order to make gadgets and gizmos for Westerners.
What a load.
I see homeless in my city every day. Believe me, many of them are no better off than your fictitious armless/legless Chinese person 20 years ago pounding his head on the sidewalk. Have you tried walking around the poorer parts of your town lately with your eyes open???
Have you not read the articles about Chinese elderly committing suicide because they have no one to take care of them???
Fox spins out fantasies. Go peddle those somewhere else.
Flawed and imperfect people will save the world from the pluperfect.
The man seems to have tried to help the poor at the same time he chased some of the elite from power. Good enough for me until something better comes along.
As i said, just found the material on youtube (the place to go if you like slumming). I can’t vouch that any of it is accurate, though I doubt that even the most talented CIA propagandist would make up that amount of detail to draw a few lefties on a wild goose chase.
Fiction or nonfiction, it’s a hell of a story, gripping in every detail.
He might have lost his day job so is back on the dole. Go easy.
I did not know that that’s how they are classified, but I’m not clear what you think it proves in the context of the present discussion.
Kirschner is one of them, breast cancer I think. There are one or two more but I can’t remember where I saw the list.
Dilma Vana Rousseff to remove an early-stage axillar lymphoma, a cancer in the lymphatic system
Both soft tissue cancers, both victims young. The material I linked to about indicated that the unintended cancer virus was present in Salk & Sabine polio vaccines, came from monkey kidneys used in the manufacture of vaccine. A little later research was published that showed that cancer was caused by a virus, which, according to the story, was the spur for U.S. weaponization program. As mentioned, Castro was one of the intended victims.
Author of book, journalist not scientist, has read that something like 60% +/- of today’s soft tissue cancer epidemic may have come from the guinea pig kids who were inoculated against polio in the 1960s. Apparently that form of the virus, before weaponization, can lie dormant in the body for years before something triggers it. 1/200 susceptible to cancer who got polio vaccine (Salk, injection, more virulent than Sabine sugar cube).
Here’s the blog where I read it.
From your link
Great. I think that makes me susceptable. I don’t blame my parents, though. 2 of their good friends got polio; was very difficult for them.
Well that’s interesting.
Next Q, onitgoes, how is weaponized cancer administered.
Yes. What are the odds? And how very “odd” that they are all south of “our” border, and they were mostly doing things to improve the lot of the 99% in their countries. Can’t have that, now can we???
Again, let us all remember that other Sept 11 in 1973… but apparently, the CIA has found other, “softer” ways & means to get what they want. perhaps. wouldn’t be surprised.
Yeah, well wouldn’t we all like to know that??? That’s the $10billion question.
Could be orally. Could be airbourne. Could be almost anything.
I wrote up a short version for an email, but won’t C&P it here for obvious reason.
I got the Salk shot first year it came out.
Author points out that polio wasn’t that big a problem, something like 36,000 deaths/year, lower than many other causes of deaths or diabilities. But manufacturers had millions of doses on hand, weren’t going to pull it off the market, and had FDR (though dead for 2 decades) for poster boy to roll out nationwide fear campaign.
Prolly neither orally or airborne. Orally would go thru digestive system, which could filter out some or all of the virus, thus requiring high dosage. Airborne, no telling who will get it. Umbrella poke on the street like they did with Litvenenko?
On edit: Infiltrated insider could easily poke them with a pin “accidentally”. This is an aspect I think we’ll never know.
re: the Venezuelan murder rate. Murder rates rise (alarmingly) any time a country goes through massive social change. Look at the U.S. after the Civil War, Mexico in the post-revolutionary era, South Africa after the end of apartheid, and… Venezuela after the relatively peaceful (but wrenching) implementation of the Bolivarian Republic.
Secondly, until last year, gun restrictions were practically non-existent. New police units, and new restrictions on ammunition sales are only a few months old, so too soon to say if they are bringing down the murder rate.
Crime is used mostly as a talking point (whipping boy?) for left or right. I think little serious work has been done to, ya know, well, um, actually look comprehensively at the data.
Crime is complicated with many causes.
Not my field so someone might have done what I suggest. If so, I haven’t seen it reported. Link, please, if anyone knows about such matters.
Probably more likely an injection of some sort. Easy enough to accomplish. If the needle is thin is enough, you may not even realize it happened, esp if in a big crowd situation.
As I said, my family had 2 friends who got pretty bad cases of polio, so we saw up front & personal how bad it can be. That was the incentive for my parents. I can understand their fear in their circumstances. it is what it is. Life is a crap shoot anyway.
Good points. Well I never heard anything about the alleged huge rise in Venezuelan murder rate until today…. conveniently. But you’re right that big changes can cause societal issues. We’ll probably never know the veracity of most of these “reports.”
Personal experience is a valid way to judge decisions made with imperfect information.
I was 5 miles away from WTC on 9/11. I subsequently discovered that people farther away, with zero probability of being a terrorist target, were more afraid of terrorists than I was.
FYI
Al-Jazeera just announced that its Inside Story program tonight will be on Hugo Chavez, moderated by Shihab Rattansi (who is good). 7:30 PM Eastern.
I have just one word for you. ONE word……….mini-series.
HBO already has George Lopez inked to play Hugo.
I had a friend who lived in San Fran. at the time, who went completely bonkers about turrrisssss and was *convinced* that SF was NEXT on the list, and that the Golden Gate Bridge would be the target.
No longer in touch with this person, as got odder over time, but moved away to further North in CA – allegedly “off the grid” – to be “safe.” Very strange; had a lot of panic attacks and anxiety issues. May have happened anyway as seemed some pre-disposition.
I lived in San Diego at the time, which IS a huge military town with lots of “stuff” going on. Never felt unsafe, although people there allowed themselves to get their knickers in a knot.
To me, it’s sort of how some people get their kicks from those horror movies… enjoy feeling scared. Guess it makes ‘em feel lively or something.
LOL!! wouldn’t be surprised, however. maybe they’ll make it into a musical… Don’t cry for me, Carracas! They can hire Antonio Bandaras to do as lousy of a “singing” job as he did with Madonna in the Argentina movie.
Excellent way to get PTB version out thru their Hollywood proxies.
About the weaponized cancer, I knew I’d read something, but it’s been awhile since I’d run across it
At least one of the programs was called MK-NAOMI, which was joint CIA/DoD bio-warfare program.
Link
Pogo is still right… “We have met the enemy… and he is us”
Liked this comment … thank you wynota skunk
USians should have to “see” what Pentagon/CIA routinely did/still do to humans in Iraq,Afghanistan and Pakistan. In Yemen and Libya. All because American Empire decided delivering death and destruction suited AE interests. Don’t expect CNN to start showing hour upon hour of this tho…would not fit in with the American Empire propaganda/brain washing approved scripts.
USians should have to watch and see what was done/has been done/is still being done to Iraq since 1991. First via the Clinton WH sanctions Madeleine Albright likes to say were “worth it” and then since March 2003 when American Empire and the USians who run AE brought “freedom” to Iraq.
Meanwhile can’t even get USians to not elect war criminals G.W.Bush and Barack Obama both twice. What? Re-electing warmongers and warcriminals is OK for USians to be doing but Hugo Chavez was a “bad” Venezuelan for standing up to American Empire? Jesus on a stick…this is raw hypocrisy.
USians have little business moralizing about how bad other nations leaders were or are. USians generally having avoided the required sacrifice(s) and blunt politics needed/required to clean up the multiple shitpiles American Empire “leaders” have made or keep making. The political hypocrisy of many USians is pathetic.
Impeach Barack Obama for wantonly and repeatedly killing children and innocents. Show some political backbone USians. Stop with the how “bad” Hugo Chavez was which likely is largely based on what USG/One Percent Wealthy USians and the likes of Chevron told USians watching USATV.
RIP Hugo Chavez. Undoubtedly not a perfect man or political leader but when compared to the multiple Somoza and Pinochet types of South and Central Americas which were given American Empire Approved Seals Hugo Chavez was way out front. Some speculation suggesting the CIA had/has fingerprints on what befell Hugo Chavez in the way of health problems and cause of death. It is easier to believe CIA likely is guilty of such mendacity then not.
Hey USians! Shut the serially wicked CIA down if you “care” so much about human rights,free and good politics and Rule Of Law/economic fairplay. All of these are violated routinely by CIA and the monsters like G.W.Bush and Barack Obama who send the CIA to do the dirty deeds and death dealing it does. CIA is not run by Chinese or Russians or Iranians or Syrians or Libyans. It is run by USians. CIA grabs and then jails human beings for years with no legal exits. CIA does torture. CIA drones innocent humans to death and calls this “collateral damage” while trying to kill humans who only the CIA gets to decide are bad or should be dead on CIA say so.
USians — this is what USians do and keep doing. USians are first rank hypocrites to be going on about how bad Saddam Hussein was,Omar Gaddafi was,Hugo Chavez was and Assad is or the leaders of Iran are. USians could and should be cleaning up USians shitpiles… there is plenty of them and not hard to smell or see. Usians could start with some of Barack Obama’s shitpiles — on Wall St., at Obama DOJ and at the Pentagon and CIA.
In Rome the Praetorian Guard was known on occasion to turn on their master. Will the U.S. equivalent repeat history?
I’ve read about that.
We are deep enough into EPUland for me to C&P my short version, FWIW. Gripping fiction if it’s not nonfiction, so worth the price of admission.
Links that didn’t come thru on C&P.
Book, published 2007.
Author interview, up loaded in 2011.
Remind me what the results were in the last Chinese election. Wait, now I remember…
They don’t have elections.
¡Hugo Chavez: PRESENTE!
¡Estamos todos Hugo Chavez!
People happy with their life farming and not buying things makes the corporatocracy uneasy and they must get them out of “poverty”. Poverty is a moving target and becomes another BS statistic in the hands of the government almost everywhere.
Thank you. What is going on with the people supposedly on our side bashing Chavez. He walked the way the way many of us wish our own did!